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love returned. unity is always harder than discrimination. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxfODAGWjW4 Advertising is tax deductible, so we all pay for the privilege of being manipulated and controlled. -Noam Chomsky Do you think that the amoeba ever dreamed that it would evolve into the frog? Of course it didn't. And when that first frog shimmied out of the water and employed its vocal cords in order to attract a mate or to retard a predator, do you think that that frog ever imagined that that incipient croak would evolve into all the languages of the world, into all the literature of the world? Of course it fucking didn't. And just as that froggy could never possibly have conceived of Shakespeare, so we can never possibly imagine our destiny.-Naked (1993)
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Quote:love and light , we are all one. My thoughts exactly. much love to you RayOfLight! and to all of you here at the Nexus. All above posts are absolutely fictional and have nothing to do with actual reality whatsoever. If you are waiting for "that moment", that moment is now.
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Tis' the driving force.
Love coming from "I" projected out and interwoven through every being and back to me.
Endless..boundless love for you all!
'Sat Nam
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Give it too much love and I'll start puking around. I got nothing personal with "love", but it is becoming an awful cliché around here lately. I do not love everybody and I do not want to be loved by everybody. I am not one with everybody and no, I'm not full of light. So please guys tune it down a bit if possible (this is NOT a mod request  !) with all the "love stuff" because for me it is getting off-putting already. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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I love you infundibulum... well I'm certainly very fond of your ways for sure 
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I love you more than anyone else, Infundibulum! 
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I go bring ma puking container..... BRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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Infundibulum = Charlie
EDIT: I found this one fits... waaay way better.
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Infundibulum wrote: I got nothing personal with "love", but it is becoming an awful cliché around here lately. I do not love everybody and I do not want to be loved by everybody. I am not one with everybody and no, I'm not full of light.
I'm in agreement with you...too often I find people who say the answer to every problem is "Love", as if "projecting Love" is going to put any sort of stop to all the injustice and violence and abuse going on right now. This "Love Everything", "One with Everything" approach seems very naive. I'm too aware of these injustices and the dark forces that abound to merely retreat in "Love"...I think a better approach is the Warrior approach - to go out in the world with courage and an open Heart. "...I didn't know that Cheshire cats always grinned; in fact, I didn't know that cats could grin..." - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
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I LOVED that video!! Some things will come easy, some will be a test
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ms_manic_minxx wrote:I LOVED that video!! I cannot help listening to Charlie's voice when reading Infudibulum's posts. I know this is permanent for me.
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clouds wrote:ms_manic_minxx wrote:I LOVED that video!! I cannot help listening to Charlie's voice when reading Infudibulum's posts. I know this is permanent for me. Bastarrrds... But Charlie is a cool unicorn, I can very clearly see how association was made Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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Now you've got me worried and afraid, Clouds - I don't know if I want to be Charlie or the two flaky candy-ass south park sounding unicorns... and I fear I have more Charlie in me. So if all of you start trying to lead me to candy mountain, understand if i don't follow! JBArk (=????) JBArk is a Mandelthought; a non-fiction character in a drama of his own design he calls "LIFE" who partakes in consciousness expanding activities and substances; he should in no way be confused with SWIM, who is an eminently data-mineable and prolific character who has somehow convinced himself the target he wears on his forehead is actually a shield.
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lysergify wrote:I'm in agreement with you...too often I find people who say the answer to every problem is "Love", as if "projecting Love" is going to put any sort of stop to all the injustice and violence and abuse going on right now. This "Love Everything", "One with Everything" approach seems very naive. I'm too aware of these injustices and the dark forces that abound to merely retreat in "Love"...I think a better approach is the Warrior approach - to go out in the world with courage and an open Heart. Courage with an open heart is not a warrior's way, and is in fact more in line with Love Everything. How can a warrior have an open heart when you are only fighting against yourself? There must be love for your heart to be open. "One with Everything" only seems naieve if you don't understand. Violence only begets more violence. Oh by the way... I love you all, especially Infundibulum! Those who say they don't need love are the ones who need it most of all! What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself For sheer delight of being And plunged into numberless trillions of forms So that it might Find Itself Innumerably. -Sri Aubobindo
Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
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Infundibulum wrote:Give it too much love and I'll start puking around. I got nothing personal with "love", but it is becoming an awful cliché around here lately. I do not love everybody and I do not want to be loved by everybody. I am not one with everybody and no, I'm not full of light. So please guys tune it down a bit if possible (this is NOT a mod request  !) with all the "love stuff" because for me it is getting off-putting already. Sometimes words over the internet don't do whats actually being said justice. Sorry if that came off "too cliche" or "new age lovey dovey". I certainly didn't mean it like that. Love is a very misconstrued concept. I'm sure your meaning, my meaning and and everyone elses meaning of the concept of "love" varies..some a little bit...some alot. I have strong views torwards love and compassion. Through my years of visiting various countires and actually seeing various cultures through my work and supplementing entheogens into my life I have came to a few conclusions. And upon the conclusions I have started loving more, and being more respectful and compassionate of people despite their egos and whatever they choose to carry around with them from their day to day..whether its anger, greed, whatever. And since ive done that as a person my life has made a complete 180 and I am living an excellent life, great job, travel. All because of these key things that i've decided to start emphasizing in my life. Sure you can most likely obtain this without "love, comapssion,etc" but it sure helps to ease the transistion through life..at least for me. I love these people here as human beings for what they are and what "most" on here stand for. The betterment of the individual through supplementing psychedelics. Once again....my concept of love is quite possibly different from yours man. But.....TO EACH HIS OWN PEACE
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Saidin wrote: Courage with an open heart is not a warrior's way, and is in fact more in line with Love Everything. How can a warrior have an open heart when you are only fighting against yourself? There must be love for your heart to be open. "One with Everything" only seems naieve if you don't understand.
Violence only begets more violence.
Thanks for responding to that - I mean "warrior" in the Shambhala warrior or spiritual warrior sense - see http://www.quietspaces.c...hambhala/shambhala.html for more on this. With regards to your take on Love, allow me to clarify in a specific way why I don't understand how this is viable. Let's take the coal mining industry as an example - this large, corrupt industry that destroys mountains, poisons streams, habitats, and communities - how then do I fight it with Love? Right now I have nothing but hatred for the industry, its greed, and its dishonesty. I don't act directly against it but support those who do directly or indirectly try to stop the mining. The people who stand on the side, talking about Love, get nothing done, whereas those who channel their anger into productive work do have concrete achievements under their belt. My conclusion is that those who channel their anger into productive activities have a better track record than those who merely try to embody/project Love. Do you agree? "...I didn't know that Cheshire cats always grinned; in fact, I didn't know that cats could grin..." - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
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<3 from gir? Lets go extract something together  house wrote:19:10:05 ‹house› mama aya gave me lego man eye healers Smoke Spice, NOWGir likes to tell lies, and the truth, but gir cant even tell the difference between them... http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.phpTHIS IS THE VENUS PROJECT.
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lysergify wrote:[quote=Saidin]
My conclusion is that those who channel their anger into productive activities have a better track record than those who merely try to embody/project Love. Do you agree? I don't see how you can truly do one thing without the other. If you mean anything of what you say, from whatever side you're on, if you don't do the other thing as well, your words are meaningless. You'd be a warrior without a cause or a person who loves everybody without the willingness to make any sacrifice. Both are a bit of a contradiction.
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lysergify wrote: With regards to your take on Love, allow me to clarify in a specific way why I don't understand how this is viable. Let's take the coal mining industry as an example - this large, corrupt industry that destroys mountains, poisons streams, habitats, and communities - how then do I fight it with Love? Right now I have nothing but hatred for the industry, its greed, and its dishonesty. I don't act directly against it but support those who do directly or indirectly try to stop the mining. The people who stand on the side, talking about Love, get nothing done, whereas those who channel their anger into productive work do have concrete achievements under their belt.
My conclusion is that those who channel their anger into productive activities have a better track record than those who merely try to embody/project Love. Do you agree?
It is all a matter of perspective. You can choose to act out of anger toward the coal company, or you could act out of love for the Earth. Both get you to the same place, by vastly different emotional means. Which in the end is better for you personally? Of course the point is to act rather than sit on the sidelines. But you choose your motivation...therefore there is always an opportunity for love in the face of fear. As far as embodying love, have you ever been near someone who radiates love and compassion? It is really quite remarkable, and I would say has a dramatic affect on those around them. We each have our part to play. I disagree. Anger destroys, love creates. If the goal is to tear things down, then yes, anger would probably be more productive. But if the goal is to change, modify, accomodate, compromise, rationalize to build something better, then I would say love is the better choice. What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself For sheer delight of being And plunged into numberless trillions of forms So that it might Find Itself Innumerably. -Sri Aubobindo
Saidin is a fictional character, and only exists in the collective unconscious. Therefore, we both do and do not exist. Everything is made up as we go along, and none of it is real.
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