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windoze9x
#1 Posted : 2/19/2010 5:41:42 AM
Hello all. This is my first post here. I thought about writing an essay and may get down to that. But I was hoping to talk about an extraction SWIM did recently and failed. SWIM ordered some san pedro online, cut it up, dried it in a food dehydrator, powdered it and then proceeded to follow the 69ron d-limonene extraction.

The extraction took a min to get the hang of but after the first batch of powder (100g) was done SWIM felt like they had everything down nice. SWIM let the vinegar/mescaline "solution?" sit in the dehydrator at approximately 155 degrees F. SWIM let this happen until it had completely dried. It was a dark orange, almost red. Then SWIM put this into capsules and dosed an approximated 250-300mg based on capsule size.

Then...nothing happened. Complete trip fail. SWIM thinks this is due to possibly letting it heat dry completely. But maybe it was his cactus source? Any thoughts on this would be good. SWIM ordered some peruvian torch powder from a different source and is gonna give it a completely heatless go. However, any input would be helpful.

Also, SWIM thought about just ingesting the powder if the extraction fails again. However he has no idea how much a good starting dose of dry powder would be.

I will quit rambling about SWIM now though and let you guys chime in if you'd like... Smile

edit: already messing up lol. didn't realize the nursery actually had an extraction area!! sorry Sad
 
Infundibulum
ModeratorChemical expert
#2 Posted : 2/19/2010 12:47:35 PM
Welcome!

No problem, I moved your topic to the appropriate place. Now, as for the dosage, it may have been too low. Nothing as frustrating as getting no effect! SWIY could have redosed of course. 250-300mg of (pure) mescaline feels like nothing to SWIM, he could go to sleep. Let along 250-300mg of an impure preparation of alkaloids where one does not really know how much mescaline is present!

SWIY could washing the acetate alkaloids with MEK to get purer mescalien acetate or very cold acetone to the the same end. and also tell SWIY to eat loads of it, maybe 500 mg will do the trick.

Also, try to use a balance, SWIM would doubt the "...dosed an approximated 250-300mg based on capsule size..." statement to eternity!


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workbench
#3 Posted : 2/19/2010 4:14:10 PM
If the extraction went well as he says, your friend could safely double the dose and still not have a too intense trip. Mescaline is a very forgiving compound when it comes to the dose. Tell him to wait one week before trying again because of the mescaline tolerance that was probably developed with the failed experiment.

He could just ingest the cactus the old school way. In tea or powdered form.
 
windoze9x
#4 Posted : 2/23/2010 9:05:47 AM
workbench wrote:
If the extraction went well as he says, your friend could safely double the dose and still not have a too intense trip. Mescaline is a very forgiving compound when it comes to the dose. Tell him to wait one week before trying again because of the mescaline tolerance that was probably developed with the failed experiment.

He could just ingest the cactus the old school way. In tea or powdered form.


SWIM and his friend got 224g of peruvian torch powder from a different vendor. Then him and his friend decided to just try some of the powder straight up. That way they could for sure judge that mescaline was indeed present and working before trying another extraction. They both ended up doing about 40g of powder and thought it was horrible to ingest and experienced wonderful horrible diarrhea and stomach pain haha.

They both had trips where they felt like they were right on the edge of a true psychedelic experience. They both had minor visual distortions such as borders of walls vibrating and floors bowing up and weird texture on their arms.

They are going to try an extraction again with such powder. I'll let you know if the results are better. Thanks for the tips.
 
 
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