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PickleRick
#1 Posted : 12/11/2022 1:49:04 PM
Greetings fellow hyperspace travellers!

This is my first post so if it's not best suited to this section I apologize.

So SWIM has 350mg roughly of DMT freebase left that SWIM has been vaping via the sandwich method using ash instead of herbs. Having enjoyed maybe 10 hits using this method SWIM has only had breakthrough experiences 2 times (SWIM believes this is due to poor smoalking equipment/technique)

Next week SWIMS girlfriend will arrive to visit him with 50g of Syrian rue seeds SWIM intends to share the DMT with he's girl and sees the following as the best options.

Drink 4 grams of rue seeds boiled into a tea wait for 1 hour and smoke the DMT in my current method

Drink 4 grams of rue seeds boiled into a tea wait 20 mins and take a shot glass of 175mg of DMT mixed with coca cola

Make a simple enhanced leaf blend of dried mint and 350mg of DMT and smoke this 1 hour after drinking a 4g Syrian rue tea

I would really like to share a strong breakthrough experience with my girl so any ideas or input is really helpful and appreciated.

I don't have the equipment or capabilities to do any extractions or advanced chemistry so please keep it simple for me Smile

Peace and love,
I'm Pickle Rick!
Wubba lubba dub dub
 
Justsomedude
#2 Posted : 12/11/2022 2:47:07 PM
Greetings!

Right off the bat, do you have experience with pharmahuasca?
These dosages are off the chart ridiculous, and you shouldn't be taking that much DMT orally if you want to use it responsibly.

How much experience does your GF have? How much experience do you have?
Why these dosages specifically?
 
Homo Trypens
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#3 Posted : 12/11/2022 3:08:14 PM
Yeah if you go the oral route, 40-80mg sounds more reasonable. And i like to have a bit of harmalas in the dmt serving, as well (ca. 30min after the main harmala dose). You could just keep a sip or two of the tea to mix with the dmt-cola.

Making enhanced leaf is a good idea. You probably want ca. 1:1 ratio of herbs to dmt.

You could even do both Smile Keep 150mg for 2 oral doses and use 200mg to make 0.4-0.5g enhanced leaf that should at least give 4-5 good smokes.

Speaking of harmalas, have the two of you had rue tea before? From what i read, 4g seeds is a solid to strong dose for most. Some people are more sensitive to it, and 4g might be too much. Ideally we figure out our own personal dosage of harmalas before adding oral dmt.
 
Loveall
Chemical expertSenior Member
#4 Posted : 12/11/2022 3:13:16 PM
I would not do more than 3g of rue each + (as others have said) less oral DMT.
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PickleRick
#5 Posted : 12/11/2022 3:22:00 PM
Hey guys,

No doses are set in stone but I'm a very big guy like 100kg (180 pounds I think) and I've done 2 ceremonies of Ayahuasca in peru, never tried Pharma. I was gonna give my girl like 100mg as she is much lighter but as I said I want us both to enjoy a full experience, let me know what you think Smile

But basically what I'm understanding is the best way is to take it orally but just take less, for example let's say I'm 100kg and my girl is 60kg

Peace and love
Wubba lubba dub dub
 
Justsomedude
#6 Posted : 12/11/2022 3:26:00 PM
PickleRick wrote:
Hey guys,

No doses are set in stone but I'm a very big guy like 100kg (180 pounds I think) and I've done 2 ceremonies of Ayahuasca in peru, never tried Pharma. I was gonna give my girl like 100mg as she is much lighter but as I said I want us both to enjoy a full experience, let me know what you think Smile

But basically what I'm understanding is the best way is to take it orally but just take less, for example let's say I'm 100kg and my girl is 60kg

Peace and love

100kg = 220 lbs
If you have no prior experience with this ROA and substance (extracted DMT orally is different from Aya) you shouldn't be dosing so high in the first place. You also haven't mentioned her prior experience.

Either which way, this is a lot of risk for little gain. Every experience is a full experience.
 
PickleRick
#7 Posted : 12/11/2022 3:33:45 PM
Hey just some dude,

the reason I've asked for advice is to be responsible Smile
This will be her first time taking oral DMT having only smoked it a couple of times before however she is very familiar with other pscyhs like san Pedro LSD and mushrooms.

What would you advise is a sensible dose for each of us to enjoy a very strong but safe trip? Smile

Peace and love
Wubba lubba dub dub
 
 
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