im finding myself alarmed theres no real useful compilation of salt solubilities out there which someone could use to perform an A/B themselves without following a tek that is using the exact same plant source and the exact same solvents/acids/bases even, as the tek writer.

the nexus chemical property page has a decent enough entry for freebase dmt, great, so, its soluble to varying degrees in numerous solvents, this can be useful for freezing some out of solution, using a high solubility solvent to pull, then another to crystalize, but, then i scroll down, the salt options are fumarate (i think this is one specific natural salt form since you cant exactly buy fumaric acid)
citrate (says its soluble in water and p-glycol)
benzoate (im not sure why someone would use a scheduled acid for this at all, especially one so random, but ok)

but then i dont see hydrochloride, sulfate and most importantly the one formed in like 99% of all teks ive read, acetate.

from this originally i determined maybe the acid-salts are just soluble in water and maybe the odd exotic solvent, fair enough, no need for information that serves no purpose right?

well i was planning to do an a/b using chloroform when one day i happened upon a phalarus tek, since i wanted to learn about how to deal with fresh plant matter, chlorophyll, and also just learn more about defatting since it didnt make sense to me yet. in that tek i noticed a warning, DMT-acetate is soluble in chloroform. this means that if you attempted to defat using chloroform, youd end up discarding your DMT too. Now im too worried to really progress since i cant find any empirical data on salts and what solvents the salts are compatible with.


Does there exist any sort of properly compiled data, about all the different solubilities of dmt salts in various standard solvents?

To my knowledge your best bet is going to be that chemical properties nexus wiki page, any journal articles you can find, maybe some books and ofcourse the nexus threads.

There's still much to be tested so feel free to contribute any findings.

I should add benzoic acid is not scheduled in many countries where in others, such acids as sufuric acid is. What I'm saying is this is important information to many and it is very country dependant on what is and isn't controlled.

Remember the wiki is not always up to date with forum findings but members do their best to update what they can, when they can and as it is confirmed.

The forum has had members like 69ron and BW for example compile some very important data on solubility in some of the threads. And members like Loveall have done a lot of experiments with salting out acids. (Just to name a few).

Many members have contributed data including their success and failures over time at their own expensive and time.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=96044 , https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=98968&find=unread for example may help.

thankyou, ill be saving that one about salting, as a newcommer i also dont think i would have found it for a LONG time, the first link though i think you made an error, it just links to the forum home page.

Ill also search those two users threads and see what i find.

In the mean time i guess its up to me to compile the data just so i can noob my way through a tekless extraction haha

Hello and welcome!

You might find a few more pointers over here: https://isomerdesign.com...hp?domain=tk&id=5006


All you really need to do is grasp the fundamental principles of extraction, which you should be able to find outline both in the wiki and as a stickied thread in the welcome area.