Here's my metaphysics conjecture. Let's play with only zero, and operations which we all likely hold to be true. Say algebraic axioms(addition, subtraction, multiplication, etc). I know some people are afraid of math, but trust me anyone can follow along with this if they are interested.
0 = 0
0 + 0 = 0
0 + 0 + ... + 0 = 0
also 0 * 0 = 0
Let's talk properties
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0 has no boundaries nor limits(zero space certainly cannot be graphed by any means).
0 is immeasurable.
0 has an infinite sum of itself as itself.
Infinity has no boundaries or limits(infinite space certainly cannot be graphed by any means).
Infinity is immeasurable.
Infinity has an infinite sum of itself as itself.
Now certainly infinite is not the same as zero in any classical sense. That isn't the aim of this comparison. Although, it might be debatable that zero can not exist without a concept of infinity.
How many 0's are inside of 0? An infinite amount.
.: if 0 is to exist so must infinite.
It might also be debate-able that from the O self-summations(0+...+0=0) all of them numbers could be created. Because whether or not 0 + 0 + 0 has an observer. By definition that is 3 * 0. Which we all know 3 * 0 = 0( 0 + 0 + 0 = 0).
Ex:
3 + 3 =
2 * 3 = 6
0 + 0 =
2 * 0 = 0
0 + 0 + 0 =
3 * 0 = 0
0 + 0 + 0 + 0 =
4 * 0 = 0 etc
.: if 0 is to exist all whole numbers must also exist.
Who says you cannot get something from nothing?
Cheers