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Phalaris/other grass types ID thread Options
 
tempest
#61 Posted : 6/6/2013 7:57:13 AM
Guess I will be the one to keep this thread going. I have stumbled upon what I believe to be p aquatica this time. I hope it is appropriaate that I keep posting these. I hope someone with a bit more knowledge will help me identify these and with my last post. I just need some more direction as to what I'm looking for. I had read that wild p aquatica is more likely to be active consistently than p arundinacea. And happened to stumble upon these today. I would like to do some mini extractions with my samples of these last two plants leaves and test them with an Ehrlich reagent before I smoke something that hurts me. My apologies if my posts have been excessive. I'm just learning.
 
fred green
#62 Posted : 6/7/2013 1:28:24 AM
I saw that the other day,foraging nettles.
I,m not 100 % sure but me thinks phalaris minor.
EDIT after research I would say that grass is Timothy grass
Phleum pratense ,I was watching it and it has a violet inflouresence,
and under magnification twin hornlike spikelets, check it out
 
tempest
#63 Posted : 6/8/2013 4:34:41 AM
Thank you Fred g!
 
dastree
#64 Posted : 6/8/2013 5:30:12 AM
hello all. back in FL there grew a grass/reed that we called "cat tails" it looked just like one of the pics above. im wondering if that is phalaris grass?
 
jamie
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#65 Posted : 6/8/2013 5:59:43 AM
definatly not.
Long live the unwoke.
 
The_Key
#66 Posted : 6/9/2013 1:15:11 PM
I'm thinking this is of the phragmites genus, but just want to get a second opinion first. I had a few other pictures of the leaves, but they just didn't focus properly. Need to remember to charge my camera when I go out so I'm not left with my phone. It's okay for taking the 'bigger' picture (as seen below), but anything "macro" it ain't the best.

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kikko
#67 Posted : 6/10/2013 3:36:12 AM
Hi,

I live near a river surrounded by a marshy area. I believe there is Phalaris grass available for extraction but I would like to double check to verify its identity. The tassles are green with streaks of purple on them this appears to be a characteristic of Phalaris.


"Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter."

—John Keats
 
jamie
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#68 Posted : 6/10/2013 4:20:51 AM
based on the flower heads I would say that is not phalaris.
Long live the unwoke.
 
Mattafizz25
#69 Posted : 6/10/2013 10:39:14 AM
I live with no river/lake near me and i have that type of grass all around. I don't think it is Phalaris...
 
Parshvik Chintan
#70 Posted : 6/10/2013 11:14:27 AM
doesn't look like phalaris to me either Sad
My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
 
Ambivalent
#71 Posted : 6/10/2013 12:34:56 PM
this is IMO another arundinacea from my area. they were collected from the same patch of grass. one plant with still closed flowerets, the other one with spreaded. runners at the sides of the roots are present, also there is a membrane present at the ligule.
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leon
#72 Posted : 6/10/2013 12:55:07 PM
thats not phalaris, look for this the flower is very easy to pick out once you identify it once. i can drive a mile and find fields of it around here.
 
kikko
#73 Posted : 6/10/2013 1:22:02 PM
Thanks for quick replies!

When I'm around the area again I'll search some more. I think a lot of grasses have the purple and green shading..
"Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter."

—John Keats
 
tempest
#74 Posted : 6/12/2013 5:15:51 PM
What I believe to be more arundinacea from colorado? It seems we are somewhat devoid of naturally occuring tryptamines around here, it would be great if I can isolate some alks from these. These have a prominate ligule membrane and are in water and just on the banks at this rivers edge. They are have rhizomes. I collected a few oz of these leaf blades, my only worry is that they may be too big for arundinacea? The biggest ones are about 5 foot. Also there may be a lot of grass fertilizer runoff in this river, which may account for the size but what are some safety concerns around that. I would not want a tea from these anyway.
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jamie
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#75 Posted : 6/12/2013 7:19:58 PM
I have seen like 6 foot arundinacea.
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dreamer042
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#76 Posted : 6/12/2013 8:25:01 PM
Just to assist in helping folks ID

Image 1: Phalaris arundinacea var. Yugo Red flower head

Image 2: Phalaris arundinacea var. Yugo Red ligule
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tempest
#77 Posted : 6/12/2013 9:49:16 PM
Thank you all much! I just reaad the hippy salad oil teks, and threads. I just want to obtain my alkaloids In the most environmentally conscious way possible. Its what the plants are teaching us IMO. To take care. Screw having things delivered if I don't have to. Though I just got some a confusa that reaks of dmt and when I took a huge whiff from the bag it actually gave me a head change if you can believe it.
 
dreamer042
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#78 Posted : 6/13/2013 8:22:58 PM
Same flower one day later.
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kikko
#79 Posted : 6/14/2013 7:08:44 PM
New grass to ID!



"Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter."

—John Keats
 
Parshvik Chintan
#80 Posted : 6/14/2013 7:34:05 PM

that is variegated phalaris arund.

i hear it is not as potent as some of its less colorful relatives.
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