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A Guide to DMT Enhanced Leaf (Changa) Options
 
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Senior Member
#401 Posted : 3/11/2010 12:15:07 PM
Dorge wrote:
http://changaya.blogspot.com/p/technology-of-sacred.html
new site...


Excellent work!!!!!!!
 
gammagore
Moderator
#402 Posted : 3/11/2010 2:36:40 PM
Dorge wrote:
http://changaya.blogspot.com/p/technology-of-sacred.html
new site...


Thats soooo sweet, niceSmile
 
1664
#403 Posted : 3/11/2010 2:51:18 PM
Sweet site. Did you make it Dorge?
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Trickster
Chemical expert
#404 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:08:07 PM
SWIM is still very much interested in experiencing Changa. However she does not have Caapi leaves. Can she use Caapi Copy, Caapi Tincture or THH tincture from FV to prepare some Changa? SWIM may infuse passion flower with spice and some of the above. Will Caapi Copy dissolve in IPA?
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soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#405 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:12:20 PM
That sounds perfect Smile
 
Trickster
Chemical expert
#406 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:31:25 PM
soulfood wrote:
That sounds perfect Smile


What would be a good proporation?

Passion flower - 1 part
Spice - 1 part
Caapi Copy - ?
Caapi Tincture - ?
THH Tincture - ?

An alternavie is to take CC, CT or THH sublingually. But that would not be Changa, right?
Do not seek the truth, just drop your opinions.
 
soulfood
Senior Member | Skills: DMT, Harmaloids, Bufotenine, Mescaline, Trip advice
#407 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:44:12 PM
Well I'd use caapi copy I guess maybe at 5-10% the weight of the leaves minimum, but more's always good Smile
 
Trickster
Chemical expert
#408 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:53:50 PM
soulfood wrote:
Well I'd use caapi copy I guess maybe at 5-10% the weight of the leaves minimum, but more's always good Smile


Thanks, soulfood.

Does CC dissolve in IPA?

Well, I guess SWIM can check for herself. Alternatively she may just sprinkle it on top of enhanced leaves.
Do not seek the truth, just drop your opinions.
 
ghostman
#409 Posted : 3/11/2010 6:57:25 PM
Trickster wrote:
SWIM is still very much interested in experiencing Changa. However she does not have Caapi leaves. Can she use Caapi Copy, Caapi Tincture or THH tincture from FV to prepare some Changa? SWIM may infuse passion flower with spice and some of the above. Will Caapi Copy dissolve in IPA?


I use Caapi extract. I bought 10:1 White Vine extract from Maya.

I tried to dissolve it in the acetone, but it does not dissolve. I think you'll have to dissolve it in acidified water first. It was not a problem though, because the DMT infused leaf is so sticky, the Caapi extract just gets clogged into the mix.

I used 300mg 10:1 Caapi extract to 1g spice/1g pau d'arco.

I was not sorry I did this ;-)
Peace in mind, Love in heart
 
Trickster
Chemical expert
#410 Posted : 3/11/2010 10:00:31 PM
ghostman wrote:

I used 300mg 10:1 Caapi extract to 1g spice/1g pau d'arco.

I was not sorry I did this ;-)


SWIM doesn't have pau d'arco yet, so she will use passion flower.

How much did you use for one dose?
Do not seek the truth, just drop your opinions.
 
gammagore
Moderator
#411 Posted : 3/11/2010 10:08:35 PM
 
Dorge
#412 Posted : 3/12/2010 4:38:14 AM
SWIM did indeed make it. thanks folks. and thanks to dimitri for the typo spotting.

Swim would like to see it become a huge resource and source of inspiration for folks.
Swim will not put technical spice manufacture notes on it but blends ect... methods for making it and all that.
Any good bioassays too... just PM.

On a side note in response to the questions above. Soak caapi leaf or vine in some high proof vodka or Iso and then evaporate that on your smoking medium, that will work just fine. which would essentially be the same as adding caapi copy to some ethanol. you probably will not get the same clarity of the leaf though.
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Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/


 
BGTM236
#413 Posted : 3/13/2010 7:47:41 PM
My first changa mix is soaking. 5% caapi vine, 25% blue lotus, 20% calea, 50% DMT, 4g total. I'm very excited for it to dry, but i know it will be a few days. However, i'm wondering if i made an extremely fatal mistake. I decided not to use heptane, as recommended, so i used acetone. I knew that finger nail polish remover was basically acetone, so i just used that without thinking about it until the DMT was already in the acetone.

There are a lot of other chemicals in finger nail polish remover. Was I supposed to use pure acetone? Is my changa going to be safe to smoke?
 
ghostman
#414 Posted : 3/13/2010 9:50:31 PM
BGTM236 wrote:
My first changa mix is soaking. 5% caapi vine, 25% blue lotus, 20% calea, 50% DMT, 4g total. I'm very excited for it to dry, but i know it will be a few days. However, i'm wondering if i made an extremely fatal mistake. I decided not to use heptane, as recommended, so i used acetone. I knew that finger nail polish remover was basically acetone, so i just used that without thinking about it until the DMT was already in the acetone.

There are a lot of other chemicals in finger nail polish remover. Was I supposed to use pure acetone? Is my changa going to be safe to smoke?


I use pure acetone, bought and bottled at the apothecary. Was the nail polish remover coloured and very smelly? Pure acetone is clear and smells strangely cool. Is there any indication of what else is in the acetone?

Personally, I'd be afraid if it.

Always use pure chemicals and solvents.
Peace in mind, Love in heart
 
balaganist
#415 Posted : 3/13/2010 10:09:05 PM
gammagore wrote:
Dorge wrote:
http://changaya.blogspot.com/p/technology-of-sacred.html
new site...


Thats soooo sweet, niceSmile


Yeh nice work mang!!
Smile

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gammagore
Moderator
#416 Posted : 3/13/2010 10:14:46 PM
BGTM236 wrote:
My first changa mix is soaking. 5% caapi vine, 25% blue lotus, 20% calea, 50% DMT, 4g total. I'm very
There are a lot of other chemicals in finger nail polish remover. Was I supposed to use pure acetone? Is my changa going to be safe to smoke?


hehe, should have gone with the pure household acetone dude.

You are treading on untested waters here, you have enhanced alot of herb there, soooo when you do get around to testing the blend, maybe start with just the smallest of amount and see if there are any adverse affects to the added shit in the acetone you used. Check for any odd taste and if you feel any effects on the chest and lungs.

But please dude, be carefull when testing this blend of yours.
 
BGTM236
#417 Posted : 3/14/2010 3:48:46 AM
Im strongly considering just dumping it and pretending this never happened. It would be a lot of completely unnecessary waste, I still cant believe i did it. Anyway, here is the ingredient list: Acetone, water, propylene carbonate, dimethyl glutarate, glycerin, dimethyl succinate, dimethyl adipate, fragrance, benzophenone-1, denatonium benzoate, gelatin, yellow 11.

If i do attempt to test it, I will try to clean it a little by soaking it in heptane. I dont really think this would help, but it couldnt hurt.
 
Dimitrius
#418 Posted : 3/14/2010 4:00:30 AM
BGTM236 wrote:
Im strongly considering just dumping it and pretending this never happened. It would be a lot of completely unnecessary waste, I still cant believe i did it. Anyway, here is the ingredient list: Acetone, water, propylene carbonate, dimethyl glutarate, glycerin, dimethyl succinate, dimethyl adipate, fragrance, benzophenone-1, denatonium benzoate, gelatin, yellow 11.

If i do attempt to test it, I will try to clean it a little by soaking it in heptane. I dont really think this would help, but it couldnt hurt.


I would dump it.

You can use ethanol or IPA (70%, 91%, dry) to dissolve the spice and evaporate it onto herbs. Doesn't have to be acetone.
"Within your heart is a lotus, and within this lotus is a diamond. This diamond is the source of creation, and in all the creation, there is only one lotus."

"Only from the Heart can you touch the sky." ~ Rumi
 
Dimitrius
#419 Posted : 3/14/2010 4:05:45 AM
Dorge wrote:
SWIM did indeed make it. thanks folks. and thanks to dimitri for the typo spotting.

Swim would like to see it become a huge resource and source of inspiration for folks.
Swim will not put technical spice manufacture notes on it but blends ect... methods for making it and all that.
Any good bioassays too... just PM.

On a side note in response to the questions above. Soak caapi leaf or vine in some high proof vodka or Iso and then evaporate that on your smoking medium, that will work just fine. which would essentially be the same as adding caapi copy to some ethanol. you probably will not get the same clarity of the leaf though.


I really do love the site Dorge. It's beautiful and informative. Very happy

Thank you for creating it.
"Within your heart is a lotus, and within this lotus is a diamond. This diamond is the source of creation, and in all the creation, there is only one lotus."

"Only from the Heart can you touch the sky." ~ Rumi
 
T
#420 Posted : 3/14/2010 7:42:43 PM
BGTM236 wrote:
Im strongly considering just dumping it and pretending this never happened. It would be a lot of completely unnecessary waste, I still cant believe i did it. Anyway, here is the ingredient list: Acetone, water, propylene carbonate, dimethyl glutarate, glycerin, dimethyl succinate, dimethyl adipate, fragrance, benzophenone-1, denatonium benzoate, gelatin, yellow 11.

If i do attempt to test it, I will try to clean it a little by soaking it in heptane. I dont really think this would help, but it couldnt hurt.


Put you're changa in PURE acetone, soak it, filter and do a FASA on it.
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