Ufostrahlen wrote:Oh please. Don't buy the warm words, judge a man by his actions. Quote:Then Jesus, beholding him, loved him and said unto him, “One thing thou lackest: Go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in Heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me.” http://www.biblegateway....10%3A21&version=KJ21 Quote:Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market. The Vatican has big investments in banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, real estate. http://content.time.com/...le/0,9171,833509,00.html This article speaks of 270 Billion EUR which the Vatican owns! http://www.spiegel.de/wi...des-klerus-a-686793.htmlReligion = indoctrinate the foolish ones to gain personal power If you want to make big changes in the world, or help lots of people, it helps to have resources. "The Roman Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world" http://en.wikipedia.org/...c_Church_and_health_careemptymind attached the following image(s):  pope.jpg (54kb) downloaded 25 time(s).
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anrchy wrote:I dont see the justification of this. Religion has also caused many many deaths from wars spanning the known history of our civilization. I also dont see anyone condemning religion, just organized religion. There is a difference. Current organized religion is dangerous. Seeing "his presence" as a great service seems to me a silly statement. His presence isn't what provide people with comfort, many other religions provide comfort with out the presence of "a great man" to aid in it's ability to ease people's fear of death. And your statement about your own families experience with living fruitful lives with religion compared to those that did not, without it, is not only a very isolated situation... but is ignoring other possible reasons for their suffering and anxiety. Your families experience with this does not discount the actuality of how people can and have had great long lives filled with happiness with out the need for religion. Dont shamans use ayahuasca to help them in battles and defeat other tribes?
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