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Hyperspace Fool
#21 Posted : 9/22/2013 1:24:24 PM
Oh, and BTW... I am an all-in-one-hit guy myself. If your lungs can handle it I find it is the best breakthrough potential.

Though I must agree with brother UC about taking what I call a "pre-heating the pan" dose. It can get you in the mood for a real toke, and clear out the pre-flight jitters. If you don't wait too long to take your real pull, it may even give you a bit of a launch pad.

Big grin (to finally actually answer the OP's Q)
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General Gypsy
#22 Posted : 9/22/2013 2:21:39 PM
In my experience multiple hits pale in comparison to one single solid hit.

"Many of us who have experienced psychedelics feel very much that they are sacred tools. They open spiritual awareness."
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"Drop Out--detach yourself from the external social drama which is as dehydrated and ersatz as TV. Turn On--find a sacrament which returns you to the temple of God, your own body. Go out of your mind. Get high. Tune In--be reborn. Drop back in to express it. Start a new sequence of behavior that reflects your vision." -Timothy Leary
 
Squirrel
#23 Posted : 9/22/2013 6:33:03 PM
Hyperspace Fool wrote:
@ alert - I suppose it is a matter of preference. I was vaping before changa was created. The differences are minor in terms of effect IMO. The DMT overpowers anything else in the mix, but you do notice a "coloring" of the pure spice high by using other psychoactive herbs. People use lotus flowers, salvia leaves and whatnot and that definitely has an effect. I prefer the OG changa of caapi leaves, mullein and DMT... a bit of mint perhaps.

Harmala infused changa is easier and more consistent than vaping pure, but it also changes the experience a bit for me. Stretching it out a little and giving it that aya tinge... which is really cool of course if that is what you want. I am avoiding combusted smoke in my lungs at the moment, but I am not anti-changa.

When the first people I knew to make changa introduced me to it, I was in love. (I even know a guy who swears he came up with the idea.) It was epic and I was sure it would be a revolution in spice. But like many such revolutions (hydroponic weed, candy flips, mxe, 2cb etc.), I eventually decided that the original was still the best. And that these new things might even be dangerous.

When I want an aya experience, I take a huasca preparation. If I want a longer DMT flash I insufflate it. (frequently my ROA of choice) For me, the beauty of vaping spice is the intensity and the short duration. 5 min of total Hyperspace immersion rather than 15 of merged Hyperspace and reality.

In the end I thought that the ease of changa, making it easier to consume in riskier situations... and the tendency to not just sit there and go with it, but to smoke changa spliffs while walking in the woods or puff bowls while out and about, leads to more dangerous possibilities. Changa brings a less conscientious demographic to spice. DMT had been the kind of thing you had to WANT to do and having some hurdles to get to hyperspace seemed... well, right. Having someone pass you a spliff and only realizing after you hit it what it was is becoming an increasingly common story for first experiences. Also, the number of people blasting off on cliffs, next to rivers and on the beach is exponentially increased now. It is rare, but you do hear about tragic accidents.

Who knows? My feelings on it vacillate and I still make changa. Easier doesn't have to mean bad, and everyone deserves the chance to experience this stuff... and we all know 99.9% of people are not going to be trying to extract it themselves. (dumping lighter fluid into jars of PH tweaked soup just smacks too hard of meth shake and bake operations and requires a geek factor that is not universal by any means)

Man... I guess I derailed this thread big time. Oh well.

HF


Ok well that was a good read for me, thanks! i am most likely going to vaporize spice and see the full impact of DMT, however I do feel the urge to try Changa atleast once
 
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