A relevant TM quote (or two): Quote:A language which could be seen would be a kind of telepathy. If you could see what I mean you would see my thought. The way we communicate, small mouth noises and the assumption of shared dictionary, an assumption that is never borne out by careful questioning, is a miserable way to communicate. Quote:I think language aspires to visibility, and that drugs like ayahuasca are allowing the people who use them to experience a kind of telepathy. It's not a telepathy of 'you hear what I think', it's a telepathy where you see what I mean. Every day I am thankful that I was introduced to psychedelic drugs.
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...except that I sometimes wonder, while gazing at the superdense linguistic substrate of hyperspace, if it's not the meaning we are getting first and the visuals being built based on that, rather than being the other way around, where the visuals are transmitting the meaning. While I'm experiencing it, either interpretation seems plausible.
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So glad I created this thread. You all seem to relate well :] Great posts! "Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
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DeDao wrote:So glad I created this thread. You all seem to relate well :]
Great posts! No, I still don´t understand why you created this thread... 
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A picture is worth a thousand words and a beautiful song strikes up the images of a hundred well told tales.. In my visions I have dreamed that one of the next levels of communication that goes beyond regular and cumbersome words is the language of music. I would like to imagine a future where everyone understands the most complex nuances of musical theory and uses these skills in order to communicate in such a musically fluid and absolutely eloquent, (almost telepathic) way..... all of those unspeakable parts of the human experience that cannot ordinarily be conveyed using common words. If every human being was able to express the inexpressible using music then perhaps people would be able to understand each other all the better. It is well known in music theory that certain groupings of harmonies and rhythms are capable of invoking various predictable states of mood, whether that mood be happy or sad, melancholy or jubilant. I suppose a decent analogy for this idea would be how birds use song to communicate to one another. moniker attached the following image(s):  ganesh sitar.jpg (475kb) downloaded 188 time(s).“Music is the voice of God traveling through ten-dimensional hyperspace.”
― Michio Kaku
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I do believe this started with sincerity then yall crazy foos just drowned it shame on you all for being too creative. Art Van D'lay wrote:Smoalk. It. And. See.
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If music were language I'd be mute. I can listen to it but for the life of me I can not create it. I cannot keep a rhythm nor be creative with an instrument. *fail* I've had many years of musical training, piano, violin, flute, gitar... I never was good or even remotely adequate in any of them. I sincerely hope the next step in evolution is not music, otherwise I'm def. not getting there... Buon viso a cattivo gioco! --- The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens. --- mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
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112233 wrote:Hey, Enoon, you were in a dream of mine last night; what up with that? You too!! a1pha attached the following image(s): getout.png (374kb) downloaded 172 time(s)."Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
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Enoon wrote:If music were language I'd be mute. I can listen to it but for the life of me I can not create it. I cannot keep a rhythm nor be creative with an instrument. *fail* I've had many years of musical training, piano, violin, flute, gitar... I never was good or even remotely adequate in any of them. I sincerely hope the next step in evolution is not music, otherwise I'm def. not getting there... afaik singing comes before speaking. i don't think it is the next step, it is just a current alternative. imo Terence had the right idea with visual communication. My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
樹
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I actually think the next step will be telepathic communication: the evolution of the Hive Mind. Of course this would only work if privacy was respected and there were a two-party consent to "mind meld," to use a Star Trek term. And what is Science Fiction but Prophecy in action? 112233 attached the following image(s): spock_mind-meld-icy.JPG (35kb) downloaded 160 time(s).Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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Enoon wrote:If music were language I'd be mute. I can listen to it but for the life of me I can not create it. I cannot keep a rhythm nor be creative with an instrument. *fail* I've had many years of musical training, piano, violin, flute, gitar... I never was good or even remotely adequate in any of them. I sincerely hope the next step in evolution is not music, otherwise I'm def. not getting there... can you dance then Enoon? “Music is the voice of God traveling through ten-dimensional hyperspace.”
― Michio Kaku
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When in the DMT "waiting room" I often get the word, "Purpoinq" I have no clue as to it's meaning.
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"No one gets angry at a mathematician or a physicist whom he or she doesn't understand, or at someone who speaks a foreign language, but rather at someone who tampers with your own language" (quote by Jacques Derrida)
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Look!...What's that...over there...?
Please do not PM tek related questions Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
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Silence is good. 
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And what are you supposed to mean by that? "Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
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DeDao wrote:And what are you supposed to mean by that? precisely that My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
樹
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Could you repeat that, please?
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The never ending thread numero dos! "Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
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DeDao wrote:The never ending thread numero dos! Sync...I was gonna say that...  Please do not PM tek related questions Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
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