.... got p. incarnata tincture at the local health food stor. its 333mg to every 1ml with an herb strength of 1:3. any idea of what a good starting point would be.

..also got. 95% curcumin extract 1000mg with 95% Bioperine 5mg tablets.

combo of the 2?

..hard to say for sure, careful experimentation the best way to go..i once a long time ago extracted a passionflower tincture which was a lot weaker than what yours says on the bottle, resulted in 60mg of amazing soft red crystal..tinctures seem to vary a lot depending on brand, all i know for certain is 300-400g dried commercial herb..we don't know if the tincture was cold extracted, heat etc.
the curcumin sounds really interesting too, has anyone had any experience with it..?

as far as the tincture goes. Its made with 50% grain alcohol. and from what I understand alcohol spice and maoi dont mix. so could one evaporate to crystals?

Yes, evaporate the tincture.

You can use this passiflora tincture to dissolve spice, and melt the liquid spice plus passiflora with herbs of choice like caapi leaves, or mullein leaves i.e, then evaporate this completely and you'd have a changa or enhanced leaves blend with no alcohol left in the mix.

would freeze precipitation work aswell?

No.

Why not just evaporating ?? It's so easy and you can use that as a solvent to make changa again. or just drink it dilute in water as is it intented to be used. You can use high passiflora dose to sleep on end of a acid journeys, to cut the insomnia, maybe good on iboga too (house !)

got it evaperating now in pyrex dish. idk it was just a thought. Live in a fairly wet and humid area this time of year and evap takes forever.

.... Just trying to figure an over the counter type of maoi to activate spice orally... does not like ordering things online to often so trying to work with whats on hand..


p. incarnata vine
p. incarnata tincture(evaperating)
curcumin/Bioperine extract pills..
freebase spice
and MHRB powdered

..Feels the right combo just might work

Just doing a little experimentation and looking for expert advise