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whats the UK equivalent of VM&P Naptha? Options
 
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#21 Posted : 8/14/2008 2:20:24 PM
probably the same thing. short-chain hydrocarbons.
in canada, it's called varsol (just figured it out this morning)
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lorax
#22 Posted : 8/14/2008 2:59:29 PM
what you wanna try to get is SHELLSOL T. this is the stuff you want coming directly from shell oil inc. i found some on ebay. it was like 8 euro per liter. i don't know if i am allowed to post links here.. in case it is not allowed - i will then never do it again. just be sure to tell me.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Shell...?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

this is a link from ebay germany..
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DMTripper
#23 Posted : 8/15/2008 12:25:16 AM
I've used Newport lighter fluid with good results. It's just naphtha.
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MonkeyBone
#24 Posted : 9/7/2008 5:55:39 PM
Are you serious? Varsol is the way to go for a clean extract? Approximately 1kg of powdered mimosa is waiting still for 2 years in my closet cause i cant find VM&P naphta....and all this time waiting...had it right here...Varsol!

Does someone actually done a successful extract with Varsol brand?
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geeg30
#25 Posted : 9/8/2008 1:39:37 AM
There are various places to get naphtha in the UK.

Windsor & Newton thinners, Tetrion white spirit (Tetrosyl), Panel Wipe for degreasing cars to name but a few.
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WhoaManThatWasIntense
#26 Posted : 9/10/2008 11:32:14 PM
Even the paraffin sold in the gardening section of places like B&Q and Focus works for extraction (sold as fuel for greenhouse heaters, it's the heavier yellow naptha). Cheap and plentiful (5.99 for 5 litres or thereabouts).

It seems to be much kinder to seals and my perspex turkey baster than white spirit, which immediately attacked the perspex - with paraffin the perspex remained unclouded and it was easier to see any base solution settle to the bottom of the baster before you put it back in the jar. It's a pain in the arse to evaporate though, especially in large quantities, so i'd only recommend using when doing a series of freeze precipitations (you get pretty clean product despite the colour of the naptha).

Having said that, i've not tried a white spirit extraction from start to finish yet (just attempting to see if I can retrieve the last dregs from a 150g extraction), I have 150g of MHRB waiting in the wings to be reduced to powder and another 500g in reserve, maybe i'll do a proper comparison and post results if anyone's interested. Maybe if white spirit is more active in attacking seals and basters it'll also be more effective in extracting the goods from the base.

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fourthripley
#27 Posted : 9/10/2008 11:46:17 PM
White spirit IMO is the best OTC defatting solvent available in the UK. Its a mixture of high boiling naphtha and a smaller amount of aromatics. Less stinky/noticeable than xylene or toluene and much easier to obtain. Pulls a lot more crap than naphtha defats.
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WhoaManThatWasIntense
#28 Posted : 9/12/2008 11:24:06 PM
Just got my white spirit pull from the freezer, and got a really nice amount of crystals from a 150g STB that has already been extracted from about 3-4 times with paraffin, and has been sat under my sink for over a week now (rubs hands with glee and cackles like a mad scientist). This purple/pink MHRB just keeps on giving, I suspect I threw away my first batch WAY too early now.

I think i'll be using white spirit for all future pulls, I just have to find a turkey baster that doesn't get attacked by the solvent.

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drakkar
#29 Posted : 12/23/2011 7:17:56 PM
MagicalLeprechaun wrote:
Swim was under the impression that White Spirits is just the U.K. name for VM&P Naptha. Would swim be wrong in assuming this?


what about replacing this hard to get Naphta's with that so pure and easy to get Toluene wich is suitable for a/b extraction of E...???
I tried to burn some white spirit in a "historic"lamp, and it fumes some black, very smelly vapors.
I passed my hand thru this vapors and i had some black residue in my hand. but not tested the low odours white spirits and turpentine substitutes.
Did some one try?.
 
chemisch
#30 Posted : 12/28/2011 7:00:48 AM
google is your friend, so is sr but eh hmmm
if you can bassify in ammononia and extract with dcm why not smoke it?
 
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#31 Posted : 12/28/2011 3:34:40 PM
Why are you resurrecting a 3 year old thread, drakkar?

Anyways, to answer your question, White Spirit (even low odour) is "heavy naphtha". Lighter fluid, such as Ronsonol and Newport, is "light naphtha" and makes evaporating the solvent a million times quicker.
 
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#32 Posted : 9/17/2013 6:49:18 PM
Just found this regarding bartoline

http://www.bartoline.co....t_View.aspx?articleid=50
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Jees
#33 Posted : 9/17/2013 7:01:59 PM
^^^ The best you can find for cleaning paint brushes.

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Jaffster
#34 Posted : 10/29/2015 12:48:47 PM
I assume that many are finding this thread via google whilst trying to source Naptha in the UK.

(Sorry for bumping an old thread)

You can buy Ronsonol lighter fluid in bulk on e-bay, it is 99%> Naptha, you can buy it in packs of 12 for quite literally pennies.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...:m0VDjL3bJbPQcvGarItZA0Q

£16 (Probably a little over 20 bucks) for 12 bottles of Naptha. Perfect pulls, evaporates quickly. Bob's your uncle.
 
daspaismusflo
#35 Posted : 10/29/2015 1:27:28 PM
Wouldn't freeze precip take care of those unwanted addatives? I would of thought a freeze precip would be practical for those who can't attain it easy and want to recycle their naphtha?
 
Ufostrahlen
#36 Posted : 10/29/2015 2:23:25 PM
https://apcpure.com/product/petroleum_ether_40_60
www.ebay.com/itm/161836407941
https://apcpure.com/category/solvents

I'm not sure if the EPE Wad leaks out plasticizers, but the same goes for the RONSON caps.
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Jaffster
#37 Posted : 3/8/2016 8:13:06 PM
Ufostrahlen wrote:
https://apcpure.com/product/petroleum_ether_40_60
www.ebay.com/itm/161836407941
https://apcpure.com/category/solvents

I'm not sure if the EPE Wad leaks out plasticizers, but the same goes for the RONSON caps.


Great post - the first item looks perfect. With the worry of dead links for future readers of this thread, googling any of the below will give you what you need:

- Ronsonol Lighter Fluid
- Swan lighter fluid
- Shellsol A
- Shellsol T
- White Spirit (from any DIY shop, though takes an age to evaporate and stinks)
 
d*l*b
#38 Posted : 3/8/2016 11:44:10 PM
Jaffster wrote:
- White Spirit (from any DIY shop, though takes an age to evaporate and stinks)

You could pull the spice out of the white spirit by doing an A/B on it. White spirit is cheap, plentiful and pulls more strongly than light naphtha. If you use light naphtha later less will be needed and you get an extra cleaning step in your process.
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kendo
#39 Posted : 8/13/2016 6:18:06 PM
found this http://www.agwoodcare.co...mx1bbilzksrnthoCWV_w_wcB
Ive not used naptha before always done the BLAB Tek with mrhb & limonene
But aquired some Acacia and think i read somewhere that Blab didnt work with acacia ??
so going to try joshisom's tek https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=44251
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Studio1one
#40 Posted : 8/13/2016 11:50:28 PM
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