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ShadedSelf
#21 Posted : 10/21/2022 11:02:02 AM
I feel like you are trying to understand something that cannot be understood, at least not intellectually, the concept of asnwer/question happens in the mind, truth has little to do with the mind.
Like trying to understand what a color is if you have never seen one.
 
Dasein
#22 Posted : 10/21/2022 11:27:52 AM
I would say yes, DMT doesn't give you any answers! it renders some questions meaningless by a shift in perspective, while leading one to more and new questions. Paradox is perhaps almost a fundamental part of the way entities speak. Paradoxes show us the limits of our reason and hint at the possibilities beyond that limit. In the last few experiences, they have been speaking of insanity, of how insanity has its own structure. I was shown a space of skewed logic, where the effects entailed their causes and so on.

The one crucial lesson I have learned from all these experiences is that... the mystery of the world is not a puzzle to be solved but a reality to be experienced! the true realization of the depth and scope of this mystery can bring one to tears. The experience of the mystery itself is what puts one in a state of trance, and when the heart trembles before the greatness of the divine, the body cannot help but move, the feet thump, the arms sway, and all the puzzles, the questions and their answers become meaningless...

Language is limited, logic is limited, arts is where the horizons expand! poetry can express much more than what reason can grasp, and visual arts and dance and music even more so.
این جهان با تو خوش است و آن جهان با تو خوش است
این جهان بی‌من مباش و آن جهان بی‌من مرو

ای عیان بی‌من مدان و ای زبان بی‌من مخوان
ای نظر بی‌من مبین و ای روان بی‌من مرو
 
Voidmatrix
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#23 Posted : 10/21/2022 2:39:06 PM
Dasein wrote:
I would say yes, DMT doesn't give you any answers! it renders some questions meaningless by a shift in perspective, while leading one to more and new questions. Paradox is perhaps almost a fundamental part of the way entities speak. Paradoxes show us the limits of our reason and hint at the possibilities beyond that limit. In the last few experiences, they have been speaking of insanity, of how insanity has its own structure. I was shown a space of skewed logic, where the effects entailed their causes and so on.


This is somewhat how I see it with paradoxes as well, though I won't say that it always shows a limit to our reasoning and understanding, but more as a fundemental state in which something may exist. I see some as bounded and some as boundless.

One love
What if the "truth" is: the "truth" is indescernible/unknowable/nonexistent? Then the closest we get is through being true to and with ourselves.


Know thyself, nothing in excess, certainty brings insanity- Delphic Maxims

DMT always has something new to show you Twisted Evil

Question everything... including questioning everything... There's so much I could be wrong about and have no idea...
All posts and supposed experiences are from an imaginary interdimensional being. This being has the proclivity and compulsion for delving in depths it shouldn't. Posts should be taken with a grain of salt. 👽
 
CosmicRiver
#24 Posted : 10/22/2022 12:50:31 AM
goodone22 wrote:
i think Cosmicriver might say something more.

are you asking why do we exist? I don't know if I have a logical answer for that. Why shouldn't we exist?

Since you ask about DMT, while you're on it there's no time for thinking and logic: it's a sensation, a sudden realization.
I love what Dasein wrote and I think it's what you're looking for.
dasein wrote:
The one crucial lesson I have learned from all these experiences is that... the mystery of the world is not a puzzle to be solved but a reality to be experienced! the true realization of the depth and scope of this mystery can bring one to tears.


Like you, I have questions I haven't logically answered. "Why is there so much suffering?" for example.
But in those moments it all makes sense.
And when I think about these questions I try to remember how it feels like and then it makes sense again.
DMT isn't the only way. Meditation is another way.
The paradox is that the answers come when you stop listening to your thoughts. When the mind is clear from thoughts, you can feel the answer.
 
Magyar
#25 Posted : 10/22/2022 1:03:34 AM
Naild .... feel is the answer!
 
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