Actually I had good success with the e-cig method recently.

I used 1ml of ethanol and put as much spice in as possible. I used a simple cheap clearomizer...basically the same model as those but with 1.8 ohm.

Before using the e-cig I administered 25mg harmine freebase sublingual.

Last time I was a bit careful with the vaping because I never used sublingual harmine before. But for me there wasn't much of a diffence compared to changa. Next time I'll go deeper with my new space ship.

I think that one of the benefits of having the compound dissolved into PG, is that you only have to reach the temperature at which PG vaporizes, and the PG vapor carries the compound with the pg vapor, therefor you wouldn't need different temperatures for different compounds.

Not sure though, I have yet to play with harmalas in any way.

...can be vegetable glycerine VG, also good for dissolve spice ? or dissolve in ethanol and mix with VG, i don't like PG because of the hit...next time that i have some crystal i can find pure harmala and try it...could be very portable and easy to use if works...and useful also for other kind of substance and medicals...

FYI pure PG, with no nicotine, does not have the "throat hit" burn like it does with nicotine.

Don't know about VG for this purpose, I prefer PG because it has a long history of medical use in this exact application (delivering compounds through vapor), VG does not.

I just use the no nicotine e liquid, only used 50/50 pg/vg at the min, works fine

Ok, thanks.

I can attest to this method. I do mine in 1g of spice of 1 mL of PG. Has to be added slowly, and the PG needs to be heated, but it works extremely well.

As far as my method, I went with an Aspire Atlantis subtank. No dripping. No fuss. No muss. Just swap the RDA/Tank you have on your mechanical / regulated device, and do a 2 second draw, bam, fractals. Want to blast off? Go for another 2 second draw, and then hand it off to someone and enjoy the ride.

I -highly- recommend the Atlantis Subtank for this. With the 2 or 3 mL capacity of the tank, you'll have enough for yourself for months, (and probably all of your friends too!)

What kind of battery would you recommend for the Atlantis, Vorian? I haven't the slightest clue about e-cigs and it looks like this thing requires something that can fire at sub-ohms.

I have wanted to try e cig with cannabis oil. I know oil dissolves very well in ethanol. I use cannabis for pain relief. I wouldn't mind trying spice that way either. Good idea!

I believe that the ecig industry has just passed a huge milestone for us.

I recently purchased a Snow Wolf 200W Temperature Controlled box mod. It is capable of maintaining the temperature at a set value between 212 - 662°F. These mods are the new generation of ecigs and will soon be the norm.

Previously I had an unregulated mechanical mod which would successfully vaporize the DMT, but would also burn it if I wasn't careful.

I have yet to experiment with it, but I'm certain that it will provide positive results. When I get a chance, I'll post up some good info on my experience.

Cheers!

I'm very excited to hear back on your results!! Using an electronic dab nail set to 350F someone who isn't me blasted off fifteen people consecutively the other night. If your device can still create a dense cloud of vapor hopefully it will be just as effective.

Just a little update and a picture of my rocket-ship.



My last few mixes have been at 400~450 mg to 1 ml of PG, or about 10~12 mg per drop.

Works like a dream, I didn't think it would happen, but I have stopped using my GVG for the magic all together. It has been relegated to on the go use for more traditional smoking herbs.

What's the setup mate

furhenden, what coil do you have inside and at what W/V it run ? you get a breaktrought with this ?

Setup is an original Vapor Shark DNA20 mod (sanded to aluminum base), I have been running it at 13.5 watts, currently on a regular style 1.4 ohm coil, wicked with a small amount of silica, with a good amount of air flow.

Regarding breakthroughs, at this point in my journeys, I personally find much value and enjoyment in sub breakthrough levels, and almost never go full tilt.

Having said that, in my experience, 20 mg outta this is nearly identical to 20 mg fully vaped outta my gvg, which is close to breakthrough IME, so I see no reason that a breakthrough could not be achieved.

I still want to experiment with different coils and airflow rates to further optimize it, but all in all it is working great, and is my method of choice at the moment.

Thanks,
I have a cloupor mini (dna30) and an atty drip and use cotton...the next extraction i would try, maybe using a single coil and enough cotton but not too much...will be beautyful if one can made a liquid changa, but from what i read it's difficult to find a solvent form harmala, right ? so if one can find some way to dissolve harmala and dmt in a e-liquid can be done ?

My little pocket rocket , mini eleaf plus kennedy rebuildable dripping atomiser , good results can be achieved with the correct set up , clean coils are essential & care must be taken not to allow wicking material does not dry out , ' dry hits ' are not pleasant .

@herbster: ...then you use raw cotton or silica ? or whatever, i think that you put x drops on a cotton, but then you can vape all otherwise you burn the cotton, so one can use more drops...but then the next use will be more dmt than the previous...the best could be a mesh or cottonless setup ?? something that give you a dry it but don't burn anything...

Hi xa ,

I use rayon (synthetic cotton) as a wick , I prime the wick/coil from new with 3/4 drop & apply a small amount of heat so the liquid soaks in . Then I add a further 2/3 drops & it's good to go .....haven't tried a mesh set up yet .
The reason I use rayon is because it holds a fair amount of liquid to feed the coil , without it you'd need to keep continuously topping up with fresh liquid , I will get round to trying a mesh wick in the near future .

Yes, i imagine a coil like stovetop or similar that hold a little cotton ball, easy to change and hold the right ammount of liquid then after one session change it with anew one....i never tried but i vape standard liquid with a dripping setup and it's sooo good, i dream about a changa liquid and forgot all this problems ;-) a mesh could be right i think, never tried, i see video for a cotton/wick less setup, only the coil, it's hard but someone use it for change and taste many liquid without change cotton or wait that the new flower saturate the old one...for test about liquid....ok....maybe one time i mede experiment...for now i immagine an dream about...