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5A8R3
#1 Posted : 2/28/2019 5:35:06 PM
Hello folks, been a whole since I've posted here since I'm discussing dmt a lot now in Facebook groups.

I wonder if you have any tips on how to even-up the distribution of crystals when making changa...
How to minimise stray crystals?

I'm looking to achieve a more homogenous dosage distrubution.
 
pastanostra
#2 Posted : 2/28/2019 9:09:55 PM
If all the crystall are dissolved in IPA / Ethanol / Acetone, you can consider the product distributed equally in the solution.
Put your herbs then let evap, stir a bit to mix the mix and that's it.
The part sticked to the glass can be redissolved in solvent then evap onto the leafs.
 
Brennendes Wasser
Chemical expert
#3 Posted : 2/28/2019 9:32:13 PM
So basically if you dissolve it and evaporate, of course it should stick evenly to the herbs.

BUT

if you make a too think layer - meaning too high from bottom of your glass upwards, then it will be a problem.

Why? Because Acetone is a really good solvent and your goodies will keep dissolved until the very end. If you just have 1 layer of herbs, this wont be a problem.

But if you have like 3 or more layers of herbs and they have a distinct height inside your glass, then MAYBE the point when DMT starts precipitating will be further down than your layer of herb will begin. So the highest placed herbs will not get any of your goodies ! ;(

Don't know if I described it well ... english is not my native language ... but I guess it's clear.

Always prefer a wider Jar to prevent the herbs of having multiple layers instead of a tiny jar with a herb stack.




Besides:

Herbs which have little *Hairs* can be sometimes a problem. Because those hairs tend to make Spice starting to precipitate more liekly at those points. This is just what I have seen - but this does your Spice make indeed spread not thaaaat evenly. So I got some mullein outside from the fields and this herb especially has a lot of tiny hairs and I think the spread maaaay be not that evenly.


And regarding Spice sticking to the walls of your container: This cannot be avoided and normally you would think that you are losing a lot of Spice because of this effect. But you should always make 1 measurement before + after.

Knowing the weight of Herbs + Spice + MAOI (if any) and comparing it to the Changa afterwards will make you able to check how much you lost to the container walls.

But surprisingly this is only like 10 % or even only 5 %. But just check it out to increase the number by that the next time, if you really want to achieve a certain %. And scrape the residual stuff of the walls with new herbs.
 
GLTASN
#4 Posted : 2/28/2019 9:47:35 PM
Use a glass container that has the same size bottom(area) as the amount of herbs that will cover it, one layer deep.
"It may be that my role in the universe is, to question my role in the universe."
 
Brennendes Wasser
Chemical expert
#5 Posted : 2/28/2019 11:09:49 PM
Yeah this is of course also what I am doing, but EVERY TIME it is the crap thing to search for the perfect container Big grin Big grin Big grin

Because normally you would use different amounts everytime (or at least not the same everytime) and therefore the container that was suitable the last time is not for your current Confused Laughing
 
Asher7
#6 Posted : 3/1/2019 4:58:03 PM
Read a post one time where the person used a glass pudding bowl, the little personal one and would make the changa let it evap and dump it on a plate and then would take an eye dropper a quarter full or so (least amount possible) of whatever solvent, acetone in this case if memory serves and shoot it in the pudding cup. Swirl and squirt everything around until in the solution, suck it back up and lightly drip drops evenlyish over the changa, then let that dry.

Sounds like it would work to me.
 
Mesh
#7 Posted : 3/3/2019 1:14:40 AM
If you wanted to maximize distribution you could probably put it on a magnetic stirrer and have it manually agitate the mixture until the acetone dried out.
 
lethargicsuperhero
#8 Posted : 3/3/2019 2:12:26 AM
I've never had a problem with the DMT distributing unevenly. What you will find is that some herbs/organic material are more absorbent than others and will therefor have more DMT in it. Lotus petals for example do this and will be quite heavy after they have dried. I've never found it to be much of an issue though but I do like to weigh my doses before smoking.
 
Asher7
#9 Posted : 3/3/2019 5:32:53 PM
Has anyone ever heard about acetone causing dmt oxide? I thought I read it was alright but read another thread recently and it was mentioned that acetone tends to cause that issue more than others. It would be awesome if someone did an indepth solvent write up because I get all twisted up trying to remember what’s what.
 
blue.magic
#10 Posted : 3/8/2019 5:33:41 AM
1. ensure dissolution by heating the solvent until clear - if the solvent is tubrid, add more solvent and heat more; I use methanol for DMT and harmala freebase, it usually has transparent amber colour

2. use slightly less solvent that needed to cover the herb, you can top it up later

3. make sure the solvent just barely covers the herb

4. stir the herbs occassionally - slow evaporation and stirring is the key

5. once only damp, not wet, transfer everything to a flat surface (e.g. glass, aluminium foil) to fully dry
 
 
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