The monkey got himself 49cm - 7cm(tip to tip) of Pachanoi. Got it from an online vendor. It was a pretty cutting, no damage, no twisting, and even diameter. It was probably grown for maximum volume (so they can sell allot), so I expect it to contain maximum water.
The cutting was stored in a dark place for 2 weaks.

1336g Total weight
969g White flesh & core
319g Green flesh
48g Outer skin & spines

Only the green flesh will be used for extraction. The strips have been airdried at about 35C, which took 2 days.
The weight of the strips of green flesh dropped from 319g (wet) to 19g (dry). Is this normal? 6% dry matter?

The cutting was cut into 2 pieces before stripping. The first piece was all about learning the art of peeling and slicing a cactus.
And I would like to share my findings. Cutting out the spines and peeling the outer skin was easy but time consuming. The skin came of very nice, there was no green flesh sticking to the skin. But when the monkey tried to slice of the green flesh it became more difficult. At first only small pieces of green flesh we sliced of. Any remaining spots of green flesh were scraped of the white flesh. This resulted in allot of wet chips and also allot of slimy goo because of the scraping. It was clear this was not the way. No more scraping. So the monkey started slicing long strips from top to bottom. The picture shows how it was done. The red lines indicate the first slicing to be done. The blue lines indicate how to slice to get the green flesh in the grooves. This way of slicing is easy. No scraping, no white flesh. Nice long v-shaped strips of green flesh (that could be hung on a string to dry).




The monkey is planning to do a STB using calciumhydroxide, xylene and HCl. Yes, he knows all about d-limonene. Read allot of good things about it, lot of benefits. But it is a given fact xylene will be used since the monkey has got allot of it. The monkey has to do some more homework and calculating before he starts mixing stuff together. I will update this thread as the monkey progresses.

Good luck to your monkey!

Is your monkey going to use this:
https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/69ron's_D-Limonene_Mescaline_Extraction
method, substituting xylene for d limonene?
That's what my friend is going to do using toluene.
We should compare notes.

The d-limonene tech on the Nexus works fine with xylene. SWIM first tested it with xylene. It works almost as well, you just need about 1 more pull to get the same amount of alkaloids out.

Good to know.
Why does only half of that link appear as a link?
It goes nowhere.

It's the ' that breaks it. I changed your post a bit to make it work.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Yes that method is going to be used, substituting xylene for limo.
Would be very interesting to compare notes. Monkeys tend to be interested in the weight of the green flesh that remains after drying.
The strips of green flesh that have been sliced of, have shrunk to a weight of only 18 gram. Which comes down to 6% dry matter. How much does your friend have after drying? And what were the weight, length and width of the cutting?

Btw there is a thread dedicated to comparison of cuttings. But unfortunately not to many seem to be using it to post data. And I cant post there since I am still playing about in the nursery.

Anyway, the monkey has started calculating the weights and volumes of calciumhydroxide, water, xylene, HCl. So:
18g (cactus) : 4,5g (CaOH) : 54ml (H20) : 100ml (xyl) : 50 (HCl-5%)

As you can see the volume of solvent and HCl differ from the original ratio (as in 69ron's tek). Seems to me these volumes are easier to work with. Does this make sense or is it just plain stupid? The monkey is a patient little bastard so he is not too worried about evaporation time (of the HCl + alkaloids). And he thought the 200% volume of xylene (which comes down to about 100ml) would provide extra capacity and 'strenght of pull'. Pls forgive the monkey if he makes any stupid remarks. He is only a test animal.

At the moment the monkey is searching for some basic lab materials that could prove handy. Sep funnel, some beakers, filters, scale. He will have some questions about this later on. Or perhaps you have some suggestions already? Pls help the little bugger. He is anyoing me with his questions. Hopefully in the end he will get a nice dose out of it. Will be nice to see the monkey on cactus alkaloids.

Can't help with the weight thing - my powder wasn't powdered by me and all other experiments were using whole fresh cactus.
Be careful with the HCl, it's really easy to use too much and fry your alks. I've always used sulfuric in the past, but I like the idea of using straight vinegar.
Hey ron, if you're following this, any reason in particular for using vinegar?

Too bad about the weight thing then.

About the vinegar. Guess the monkey will go for vinegar too then, if there is no need to wash the alkaloids. The monkey just wants a safe and maximum yield from the little amount of cactus material. At the moment no need for pretty white pure crystals. So my question is:
- washing the residue (after evap) is it needed to wash away any remaining xylene?

If it is not needed to wash for safety, then for the monkey there is no need to get mescaline-HCl and wash it with acetone, right?
Then mescaline-acetate, will do?

"The strips have been airdried at about 35C, which took 2 days. The weight of the strips of green flesh dropped from 319g (wet) to 19g (dry). Is this normal? 6% dry matter?"


Hello Virola! SWIM has had much experience with drying fresh cactus and always kept track of the weight before and after. It is pretty much a standard, for SWIM, all different types of cactus coming out to 3.5 or 4 grams dried per 100 grams fresh used. So cactus flesh is generally for SWIM 96.5 to 96% water.

Of course it depends on the amount of water in the cactus in the first place, but still, the most SWIM ever got was 7 grams dried per 100 grams fresh and the lowest was about 2.5 dried grams per 100 grams fresh, so ya know, it's all in that range. 6% sounds right to me...hope that helps!

Also, about using HCL or vinegar...
I'm not going to go dig up the quote but I've been reading a lot of 69ron's mescaline talk lately and I recall him saying that mescaline HCL is "obsolete" now in comparison to mescaline acetate because the latter is much stronger by weight (seemingly from quicker absorption). That coupled with the fact that HCL acid is more toxic than vinegar seems to be a closed case in my opinion...

Also Virola, is your monkey going to extract only 19 dried grams of cactus??? this seems to be a waste in my opinion, your monkey should use at least 50 to 100 grams dried. reason is: your monkey will lose a bit of alkaloid in the process and 19 grams doesn't have a lot of alkaloids to begin with. 19 grams would fit into 15 to 30 capsules and would be quite easy to down with orange juice over the course of a half hour. the resulting experience will be far stronger than if your monkey lost all those alkaloids in the process. just a thought...

SWIM got 1.4 grams extract (69ron's d-limonene tek) from 100 grams dried pedro. if SWIM only used 19 grams that would have been a maximum yield of 280 mgs. Only about half of which would be mescaline, the rest being other alkaloids, so that's a weak experience, in my opinion and SWIM is very sensitive to all psychedelics. 400 mgs. crude extract produced a mild experience for SWIM...apparently it's all about separating the mescaline!!!

Maybe even try the resin tek.

I did that with 60g's of cactus and 1/4 of the resin was a nice threshold visual trip.

WOOOOOW only 1.4g extract from 100g dried pedro!!
Are you talking about the green outher flesh here?
There should (could) be around 5% mescaline in potent T.panachoi (green flesh!!).
Are you using good cactus or just loosing allot during the process?

And about the 19g of material... yeah probably gonna eat it.
Tried tasting it. It is not THAT bad. I like bitter : ) Can always flush it down with some oj.

Mescaline-HCl shouldnt be too bad for health if mixed with oj. Stomach acid is acid too ; )
But I will go with the acetate form. Seems easier when a crude extract is all one needs.