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maranello551
#21 Posted : 2/26/2018 11:08:45 AM
Danko wrote:


I never needed more than 3g of the cold brew for the break through.



What are you defining as "break through".....this is a term coined to describe the dmt-saturated psychic state where one can't even see one's hand in front of one's face in full daylight.....you're saying this happened to you with a /30-60mg oral dose/ of dmt?? That's hardly even a threshold oral dose for most people..........SWIM has broken through on vaped dmt but to even begin to approach that state orally took 75g mimosa........Not saying I don't believe you, but that's akin to claiming that one got "drunk as heck" from a single sip of beer......thus my questioning whether your use of the term "breakthrough" is misinformation.

Danko wrote:


And lastly, when in hyperspce I have a question:
- can you open your eyes more then few seconds?
- can you move in the bed,nor get to toilet or stand up ?

When harmalas are high I can't do either, when low, and high dmt I can stand up.



Yes to both, (pre-breakthrough, as during a breakthrough, one cannot by definition know if one's eyes are open or closed as well as whether or not one is standing.)

Danko wrote:


I also wonder if the break through on high harmalas vs high dmt are the same?


I am assuming you mean high harmala/low dmt breakthrough vs low harmala/high dmt breakthrough.....

In this case, no: The breakthrough shouldn't happen at all with low dmt, while with lots of dmt and not much harmalas, it should be a relatively short breakthrough..........implying that high harmala/high dmt would potentially result in a long breakthrough.
 
maranello551
#22 Posted : 2/26/2018 11:16:08 AM
tregar wrote:

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On the other hand, he would learn to navigate the strongest of brews with clear focus, and be undistracted by any amount of DMT fireworks.


Why did he see the dmt's effects as distractions Wut? , and given that, why include the admixture at all...? Wut?

 
FranLover
#23 Posted : 11/22/2018 4:47:49 PM
Hi there my friendBig grin YESS. Harmine overpowers DMT. For the past week I have been smoking changa that is 500mg Dmt, 500mg herbs, and 90mg harmine. Dmt crystals were white! Freeze precip method was used, then crystals were fan dried. I take four tokes and by then the harmine is super strong and I cant smoke enough (harmine makes me not care about anything, like I am just pure conciousness, a plant observing)...the feeling is very freeing. However low visuals and Harmine keeps me tied to the ground so that I cant hear the buzz and cant travel the wave and go deeper and have the dmt experience.
My experiences laid down for your acumulation of knowledge. Much love. Hope I have helpedBig grin
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Jagube
#24 Posted : 11/22/2018 6:46:17 PM
maranello551 wrote:
tregar wrote:

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On the other hand, he would learn to navigate the strongest of brews with clear focus, and be undistracted by any amount of DMT fireworks.


Why did he see the dmt's effects as distractions Wut? , and given that, why include the admixture at all...? Wut?

The fireworks are not DMT's only effects. For me, the most desirable effect of the DMT is that it helps bring out the Caapi / harmala effects fully. I don't need strong DMT, just enough to 'activate' the vine or harmalas.

Chaliponga is an exception as it has unique, interesting properties beyond just DMT. When I drink Chaliponga, I can drink it with the minimum amount of MAOI needed to activate it and it takes me to interesting places.

With MHRB or Acacia, a combination of minimum MAOI and a high dose of the DMT tea would be fireworky and uninteresting.
 
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