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Question on seperation in specific tek (and re-x) Options
 
Tom Grunder
#1 Posted : 6/8/2018 2:48:03 PM
Hello guys,

swim started with the extraction, like swim mentioned here:
Original Post

Swim got the following ingredients in it:
150g Bark(powdered)
600ml de-ionised water with 180ml vinegar(10%)
90g Salt with 300ml de-ionised water
150g Sodium Hydroxide with 600ml de-ionised water
420ml de-ionised water
about 150ml Naphtha("Spezialbenzin" )

Swim heat the mixture on 42°C, using a sous-vide machine.
And for mixing, swim uses a "Handblender", which looks supergood.
Seperation worked.
First pull gaved swim about 1,47g of strongly yellow DMT, very gooy.
When swim put in new naphtha and start mixing again, swim noticed, that after the 2nd mixing procedure, the naphtha didn't seperate. (After 30 mins waiting time)

Swim put in more salt and more Sodium Hydroxide, and waited 2h.
The seperation was there again, but swim guesses, that still naphtha is emusified.

When swim is mixing now, the naphtha takes more then 1h to seperate. (raised the heat to 46°C).


1. How did this happened? And how can swim avoid it? The Handblender is absolutly necessary, and it worked perfectly in the first flush. What should swim do?
2. As swim started the freezing process, he noticed, that the dmt is "done" after only 1,5h. Where is the benefit, on having it 12h/18h in the freezer?
3. What yield can swim expect (round about). And after a Re-X?
4. Swim wants to make a Re-X, (mainly to remove the goo, make it better for storage, weighting and usage. Swim doesn't want to waste/destroy DMT within the prozess of Re-X). Should he warm the DMT/naphtha mixture to 42°C and just make a last pull? (Heptane isn't easy available in Germany) What do you advice?





Greetings from Germany!
 
Cinnamon
#2 Posted : 6/15/2018 1:30:07 PM
Stop using swim, it doesn't do anything.

1. A hand blender is a pretty intense method of mixing. Maybe you got lucky on the first pull, maybe the mixture hadn't yet been dissolved sufficiently by the strong base. I only ever use jars that are rolled end over end or gently shaken by hand and have never had a significant issue with emulsion. Try that, or at least something less intense than a hand blender. It isn't necessary - if the issue is that your mixture is too thick, add more water, otherwise, you can put it in any sealed container (glass container) and roll/shake.

2. Many people find that it takes longer than that to get all the DMT out. Depends on the temperature of the freezer and saturation of the solvent as well. My guess is that there's a curve of precipitation that has diminishing returns at more than like 6 hours

3. About 0.5-2% is the usual yield. The need for a re-x will depend on the bark, but usually if you get a yellow/tan powder with some goo, re-xing to yellow/whitish powder seems to net about 50-80% of original weight. All about the level of impurities present

4. Yes, do a last pull, or keep doing pulls until nothing comes out. If you're asking about warming naphtha for re-xing, then yes, that's fine
 
 
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