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I did use iodized salt. Is this harmful? Options
 
dakkapel
#1 Posted : 9/18/2013 4:02:43 PM
I am following the Cyb's salt tek. I went to a couple of stores for tablesalt. There was only iodized salt (5%). In one way or another I decided that it probably would't be a problem. But now when I actually already processed 350gr mhrb and pulled the nafta I read on the forum that iodized salt isn't preferable.

Has anyone experience with this. I spend a lot of work on it and i don't want to throw it away if it isn't harmful.

Thnx in advance
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cyb
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#2 Posted : 9/18/2013 4:10:11 PM

I think the quantities used in salt are so tiny (and obviously edible) that you should be OK.
It's doubtful (although not confirmed) that potassium iodide, sodium iodide, or sodium iodate (which is what they use) would cross into the solvent.

You should be fine. Thumbs up


From Wikipedia wrote:
The amount of iodine and the specific iodine compound added to salt varies from country to country. In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration recommends [21 CFR 101.9 (c)(Cool(iv)] 150 micrograms of iodine per day for both men and women. US iodized salt contains 46–77 ppm (parts per million), whereas in the UK the iodine content of iodized salt is recommended to be 10–22 ppm.
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dakkapel
#3 Posted : 9/18/2013 4:28:01 PM
Thanks a lot Cyb for answering my question!
Cheers!
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lobo
#4 Posted : 10/10/2013 4:47:41 PM
I have Pink Salt of Himalaya ? i think is very pure.. but i dont know why the colour pink..
 
TrekkingBuddha
#5 Posted : 9/28/2014 9:25:29 AM
Just curious how this turned out? I have "morton's all natural sea salt" do you think this would suitable to use? Trying to be frugal here...

i read a "revised version" of cybs tek that zim wrote. it reads "NON-IODIZED salt - NaCl You will quite literally kill yourself if potassium iodide is added to the salt"

but the original tek is rather unspecific about the salt, reading something' like; any table salt will do.
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cyb
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#6 Posted : 9/28/2014 9:35:18 AM
TrekkingBuddha wrote:
Just curious how this turned out? I have "morton's all natural sea salt" do you think this would suitable to use?

Morton's appears to be additive free...so that's fine to use.

Salt is...salt, wherever you get it from.

Zim wrote:
NaCl You will quite literally kill yourself if potassium iodide is added to the salt

I'm pretty sure that this quote is nonsense. The iodine additives are nutrients that are beneficial to the body....BUT noone knows (as yet) whether they cross the solvent barrier and could end up being vaped/smoked.

To err on the side of caution, always try to use additive free salt.
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pitubo
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#7 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:43:58 PM
dakkapel wrote:
I am following the Cyb's salt tek. I went to a couple of stores for tablesalt. There was only iodized salt (5%).

Are you sure of those numbers? AFAIK iodized salt contains about 50 milligrams iodine per kilo NaCl (ref.). 5% would equate to 50 grams per kilo, I find that a bit hard to swallow.

Unless you put the iodized salt in stronly oxidizing acid, like concentrated sulfuric acid, you are not going to liberate much free iodine. I think you don't need to worry much about using iodized salt in Cyb's salt tek.

Next time, go to the supermarket and buy some dishwashing machine salt, it usually comes in boxes of 2 kg. It is much cheaper than table salt and also more pure NaCl, no iodides, thiosulfates or anti-caking agents.

dakkapel wrote:
Has anyone experience with this. I spend a lot of work on it and i don't want to throw it away if it isn't harmful.

No need to throw any of it away. The spice will be fine. And salt is healthy and delicious. It is the cheapest anti-depressant available over the counter. It stores indefinitely.
 
TrekkingBuddha
#8 Posted : 10/2/2014 8:44:56 AM
Thank you for everything cyb! Im constantly getting good info from you across the board! Thumbs up
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Mindlusion
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#9 Posted : 8/31/2017 2:32:56 AM
sodium (or potassium) iodide, as a solid readily turns yellow after exposure to the air, oxidizing to iodine. iodide in solution oxidizes even more quickly forming a dark yellow and purple solution.

Iodized salt can even lose a fair bit of its iodide content by this process of oxidation and then sublimation.


While this effect would be negligible if for example you used 100g of iodized salt and completed the extraction within a day...
but, you could very well have a problem with freebase DMT reacting with the iodine if you used 500g of iodized salt and left the basic MHRB soup sitting for a few weeks or a month.... tryptamine is readily reactive with iodine and other halogens so its no question about that. Still its not going to kill the entire extraction, of course, the vast majority of could be recovered and cleaned up.

If you can avoid it, choose non-iodized salt.

I've been doing a lot of iodine chemistry lately, its a strange beast, the more I work with it the less I understand about its chemistry...
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EntreNous
#10 Posted : 8/31/2017 3:18:09 AM
Thanks Mindlusion. Now I understand why I didn't understand the whole iodine issue. I'm still unclear on the reason for salt other than to break an emulsion but I'm sure I'll figure it out.
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SnozzleBerry
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#11 Posted : 8/31/2017 3:38:22 AM
EntreNous wrote:
I'm still unclear on the reason for salt other than to break an emulsion but I'm sure I'll figure it out.


Cyb links to it right at the beginning of his write up...

cyb wrote:


(I have intentionally omitted all the why's and wherefore's of the chemical processes to avoid confusion.
These can be easily found at the Nexus for those who are interested.
)

Especially here

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EntreNous
#12 Posted : 8/31/2017 3:56:39 AM
Wow, thanks Snozzleberry. I've been looking at the redirect all this time not the original post. That comment and link is not in the redirect. I have some understanding of the role of ions in partition coefficients now.
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Mindlusion
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#13 Posted : 8/31/2017 4:05:11 AM
EntreNous wrote:
Wow, thanks Snozzleberry. I've been looking at the redirect all this time not the original post. That comment and link is not in the redirect. I have some understanding of the role of ions in partition coefficients now.


Glad that you are understanding the principles EntreNous.

But take 'ionic strength' with a grain of salt ( Big grin ) , It's misleading the amount of discussion on it in terms of its effect in extraction... see my last post in the thread..

It has everything to do with partition coefficients, and ionic strength has little effect on that, especially when using naphtha.

Really, the only use of salt is to break up emulsions
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