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Gonzukes
#1 Posted : 5/17/2016 4:52:45 AM
So I'm rather enticed by this whole LSD+DMT thing, but whenever I ingest a psychedelic, I don't really feel like using DMT or another substance. It always feels kind of tainted, like "why would I want to get higher?"

It's like everything is already nice the way it is, the universe is already a beautiful trippy wonderland, and I understand the vastness of reality and most of the big profound psychedelic teachings to great extents.

I haven't tripped on anything in a long time, but I'm debating shrooms someday soon. I also have some DMT and I'd like to get there as well.

What are some logical reasons for going into DMT in a pure manner? I treat it with such respect, and if I'm tripping I can't really just do something for a selfish manner, such as ingesting a drug and "forcing" my mind to go into a certain state.

Thoughts on the matter?
 
DmnStr8
#2 Posted : 5/17/2016 5:41:09 AM
Beautiful trippy wonderland!! Love Thumbs up

Do your thing and enter these alter states of consciousness on your own terms. It's completely subjective. I don't have any problem with combos. I just see it as another state of consciousness. I like to explore the all the trippy wonderlands. But what I find pleasing someone else may find unpleasant.

I enjoy taking higher doses of LSD and shrooms as I want the full effect of the experience. I don't want to tip my toes in the water. I want to be submerged. Many people do not like the higher dose experience and stick with a mellow trip. Each to their own. Ingesting LSD and then ingesting DMT is exploring my mind. Just another doorway, another hallway, another perspective. I add all my experiences with both ordinary states of consciousness and altered states of consciousness together like puzzle pieces and attempt to solve my own jigsaw puzzle.

I understand wanting to take DMT or any psychedelic in a pure manor. Having respect for these tools is vital for any true personal growth to take place. Don't forget to have a little fun too. These tools can bring you into a child like state. Sometimes it's just nice to be in that state and relax. We set up all these rules in our head and can over complicate things pretty fast.

It sounds like you may be contemplating using DMT while on LSD. Maybe one day you will be sitting there tripping out in your own wonderland and that idea will pop in your head. It will seem like such a good idea. You will smile and try it. Maybe not. But the mind can change. What feels wrong today may feel just fine a year from now. It's a long strange trip through many strange and beautiful trippy wonderlands. See as many as them as you wish or none at all.

You don't have to ingest anything. Life is trippy and beautiful in it's own right. Take some time and think about it. Do it when your ready. Don't force it. It should be a relaxed thing as much as possible.

Not sure if this helps or confounds things further.

Go with your gut. Follow your instincts.



"In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link." ~Carlos Castaneda
 
DisEmboDied
#3 Posted : 5/17/2016 3:32:18 PM
I once had some DMT while tripping hard on acid, but couldn't bring myself to do it even though I planned on it. I was already maxed out. But I did do it later towards the end of the trip when I was coming down and it was nice Kama a little boost. So maybe doing it at the end of the trip would be second best at doing it at the peak.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Rabbit
#4 Posted : 5/29/2016 9:25:01 PM
You took a trip to the beach and you're enjoying the water; why would you swim out into the middle of the ocean?

It's probably because you're good right where you are Pleased
 
Leithen
#5 Posted : 6/6/2016 10:15:57 PM
Exactly!

If you are unsure or do not want to, then don't do it! You have the ability to do it jsut about whenever you'd like so there is no need to rush. Keep the spice around and one day during a trip you will feel like it is the right thing to do. If you don't, it probably was not the best idea.

That said I have done this and it was undoubtably the most powerful, intense experience of my life. Be careful and do your research as always!

Best of luck in your future travels!
“How long will this last, this delicious feeling of being alive, of having penetrated the veil which hides beauty and the wonders of celestial vistas? It doesn't matter, as there can be nothing but gratitude for even a glimpse of what exists for those who can become open to it.”
― Alexander Shulgin, Pihkal: A Chemical Love Story
 
Chan
#6 Posted : 6/6/2016 11:15:12 PM
A good experience can make a great platform for embracing another substance. Especially if the second substance has a bad rep for anxiety and fear, pre-blastoff... Wink

And the engine's already warmed up.

But using scales, and careful dosing, is much harder with dilated pupils, so have something pre-loaded if you think it might be time...

I'm with you on the "purity" thing, but on the rare occasions I have mixed it up, I haven't usually regretted it...apart from the 2C-E...Crying or very sad

I'd also say dial down both doses a bit from your usual, they usually synergize very well [subject to research, of course] Thumbs up

“I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

 
 
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