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JohnIce2
#1 Posted : 4/23/2016 6:04:18 AM
Ok so the process it took to get these is a bit unorthodox (Compared to most teks. It is a combination of multiple teks and Acid/Base conversions) but I will go ahead and sum it up as I know it will help identify these.

Specific amounts of materials will not be specified due to it not being recorded.

Started with Chaliponga. Freebased leaves and then pulled 3x with 99% iso (started at 70%, water was salted out with NaCl, no iodine.). Pulls were dark green in color and originally produced a waxy green substance that I had a VERY VERY hard time attempting to smoke (it did nothing but make me feel weird. Like water. Maybe a few OEVs but not much.)
That product was then taken and remixed into solution. Solution was then diluted with a relativity unknown solvent mixture (Mixture was taken from my waste jar which contained the remains of the Chali., Syrian Rue, Yopo, Iso alcohol, Calcium Hydroxide, Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Chloride, and Acetic Acid in form of white vinegar.). To this mixture was then added a small amount of Syrian Rue Extraction. In total I have 64 OZ of this solution still on hand. I believe the solution to be freebased, or at least near a neutral Ph.

A quarter of a cup of the solution was set out to evaporate slowly over the coarse of a week and a half. Today I poured off the remainder (as the solution was extremely saturated and crystals about .2-1 mm formed) into a separate container to continue evaporation. The crystals were then retrieved and are currently drying.

Now to the questions (sorry for the long post. Just trying to provide enough info to figure out what this stuff is):

The crystals shown below are all tiny squares. Frosty white in color (Although they do have allitle yellow in them) and perfectly symmetrical (wasn't able to capture it on the photo, but the center of the crystals spreads out in little lines in the shape of a four sided diamond with points that hit the middle of each side of the crystal.), they luster amazingly to the eye.
Here is a better representation of their shape/symmetry as described above:

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Can Dimitri and similar molecules form into this type of crystal?
Also, just to note, Rue extractions usually form a sticky wax like substance. This was present in the solution as it evaporated, I just poured most of it off with the rest of the solution as I wanted clean crystals to ask about (not covered in rue extract. That is for later lol)

Here are some pics. Please let me know what you think. This is my first actual evaporation attempt that I didn't screw up half way in. Please forgive the fact that some of the pics are blurry. The last one was with flash on.
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JohnIce2
#2 Posted : 4/23/2016 6:55:37 AM
Update. This stuff is definitely active. I put a pinch (like a amount not even the size of a dime) in a spoon pipe, sandwich method (with resin ash from pot resin and near cashed bowl contents that I have been smoking on FOR A WEEK. So hardly any THC left in it) and hit it once with the flame directly on the material (the crystals began to pop and a tiny spec of one flew out of my bowl so I immediately stopped.) and that didn't work well, so I tried again, only this time I held the flame slightly above the material until I heard it begin to cook. One hit. One hit and I am Super High. The ash definitely couldn't have done this, as I feel like my head is expanding into space, Colors are noticeably brighter, and a few other effects. It feels fluid and smooth.

Now I know I definitely didn't do enough to provide a "Real Trip" or breakthrough experience. Just enough to determine activity.
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3rdI
#3 Posted : 4/23/2016 11:10:31 AM
have you seen this thread
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

fool of the year

 
JohnIce2
#4 Posted : 4/23/2016 4:50:22 PM
I in fact have 3rdI!
It confused me a bit. Most of his crystals (saying most cause theirs 1 pic their that looks slightly similar to my results) are in the form of needles from what I can see.
I was just curious as to if they can form this way if the evap is slow.

And almost forgot lol: Thank You!
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JohnIce2
#5 Posted : 4/24/2016 6:56:47 AM
Update: So I speed evaped more of my solution in a slow cooker and the result was different (maybe the ratio of rue extract, to chali. extract, to waste jar contents was different in this mix. I don't remember but it is likely I worked on it more after starting the slow evape from before). This time instead of white crystals (that were pretty hard, and kept popping out of my bowl) I got a yellowish brown crystal/powder that was softer.

After grinding to a fine powder in a mortar and pestle I vaped (in a ghetto ass light bulb. I need to make a machine) a dime sized amount and am having mild colorful visuals and a very profound mental and physical effect. The come up was slow, but intense. After exhaling the vapor I could hear my heartbeat for a few seconds. Laughing Utter Euphoria is felt. Kinda like just wanna stay in place with ones mouth open staring straight.

Have to say this is pretty nice, and I am surprised I'm even getting effects like this cause haha I burnt the stuff (light-bulb vapes are good for dabs, apparently not this stuff).
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