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modern
#1 Posted : 11/8/2015 12:20:28 AM
Quote:
"Here's the sum up:

-Mix Mimosa powder with excess sodium carbonate, add water to make a paste, spread it in a wide dish and let it dry.
-3x pulls with 95% ethanol, filter the pulls
- Evaporate the ethanol
- Redissolved reddish/brownish wax in warm white vinegar, filter it.
- Mix the vinegar with excess sodium carb, spread it on a plate and let it dry
- Pull with ethanol again, filter, evap"



I may be completely off-base and will follow the original steps and try mine after. This would be my first extraction but have been reading all the techniques for a while.

Why perform the first two 3 steps; wouldn't it work the same by following Q21Q21's dry tek and just replace the d-Limonene with alcohol to pull? I may be completely wrong but I don't understand why first pull the from the base solution then preform a/b after. Is the a/b just to clean up the wax material?

My understanding of how to preform it
- boil powdered bark in water/vinegar (can you boil in just vinegar w/o water?)
- filter
- add excess lime until a thick paste and let it dry?
- pull with ethanol, filter again, evap
- repeat?

Another question would this work the same with caapi and kratom?
gibran2's Caapi extract is looks pretty easy and doesn't require a solvent but was just wondering. I have a bit of material so might just experiment myself.

EDIT:
I saw that someone extracted from caapi and got around 2% goo so I may just go with gibran2's tek. Any idea on kratom with this tek will probably try soon with 50g.
 
endlessness
#2 Posted : 11/8/2015 11:58:32 PM
When you say 'boil in vinegar/filter' , what would you filter? Because the liquid will have the alkaloids, but the bark will still have some alkaloids, so what will you do with the water? Or do you not filter and leave the liquid inside the bark when adding the base?

The problem with that I guess is having so much water that you need to dry, unless you'd pre-evaporate the water to a small amount and add back to the bark or something.

You can also add excess anhydrous magnesium sulphate (epsom salts) when drying the paste, to speed up the process of drying.

Nevertheless, after evapping the ethanol if you want something more pure and manageable, you'll need to redissolve, rebase and repull.

Im not sure about kratom but with caapi I'd def recommend a normal base-precip extraction like gibran's tek. Ethanol doesnt dissolve harmalas very well, so while it would kinda work, it wouldnt be very efficient, much better to do gibran tek or other similar harmala teks.


modern wrote:
Quote:
"Here's the sum up:

-Mix Mimosa powder with excess sodium carbonate, add water to make a paste, spread it in a wide dish and let it dry.
-3x pulls with 95% ethanol, filter the pulls
- Evaporate the ethanol
- Redissolved reddish/brownish wax in warm white vinegar, filter it.
- Mix the vinegar with excess sodium carb, spread it on a plate and let it dry
- Pull with ethanol again, filter, evap"



I may be completely off-base and will follow the original steps and try mine after. This would be my first extraction but have been reading all the techniques for a while.

Why perform the first two 3 steps; wouldn't it work the same by following Q21Q21's dry tek and just replace the d-Limonene with alcohol to pull? I may be completely wrong but I don't understand why first pull the from the base solution then preform a/b after. Is the a/b just to clean up the wax material?

My understanding of how to preform it
- boil powdered bark in water/vinegar (can you boil in just vinegar w/o water?)
- filter
- add excess lime until a thick paste and let it dry?
- pull with ethanol, filter again, evap
- repeat?

Another question would this work the same with caapi and kratom?
gibran2's Caapi extract is looks pretty easy and doesn't require a solvent but was just wondering. I have a bit of material so might just experiment myself.

EDIT:
I saw that someone extracted from caapi and got around 2% goo so I may just go with gibran2's tek. Any idea on kratom with this tek will probably try soon with 50g.

 
 
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