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brainforest
#1 Posted : 9/28/2015 7:47:45 PM
Hi guys.

Has anyone used this before?
Or know if it's ok to use,
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brainforest
#2 Posted : 9/28/2015 7:53:15 PM
I can't find the ingredients
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Firemetal420
#3 Posted : 9/28/2015 8:11:41 PM
From a quick Internet search it doesn't seem to be what you want to use
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downwardsfromzero
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#4 Posted : 9/29/2015 12:41:51 AM
"Gasolina azul" = "blue gasoline". Doesn't sound promising at all. Probably coloured?

If you're in UK just get white spirit (Bartoline).

"universal fluid" - is that like a prima materia or something Laughing




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brainforest
#5 Posted : 9/29/2015 7:16:52 PM
I usually use swan but am finding it harder to get, and as most of the lighter fluid is kept behind the counter, it's pretty hit and miss. IE, you look pretty strange when you ask if they sell it, they say yes and then you start specifying what ingredients you'd like it to consist of.
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herbster
#6 Posted : 9/29/2015 8:55:31 PM


If you're in UK just get white spirit (Bartoline).

White spirit you say , you've used this ? Will save a lot of hassle if it's ok .
 
3rdI
#7 Posted : 9/30/2015 8:41:43 AM
bartoline low odour white spirit works, but it takes forever to evaporate if you need to reduce it.
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NotTwo
#8 Posted : 9/30/2015 9:33:08 AM
3rdI wrote:
bartoline works, but it takes forever to evapourate if you need to reduce it.


Never used Bartoline but I had some bad experiences using generic "white spirits" with my first extractions. Like 3rdI says, it's impossible to evaporate, even when warmed on a radiator. The crystals I produced with it smelled bad of white spirit even after a couple of weeks of leaving on an open dish and I had to end up recrystalizing them with heptane.

I'd always do an evap test on any NPS before using it. If it doesn't evap quick and clean, no residue and no odor then it's not worth using.

Out of interest you can buy 12 packs of Ronsonol lighter fluid off the internet which I can personally verify to be good stuff but a little pricey.

If not, lay your hands on a 5 liter can of heptane which is a fraction of the price and will last you a lifetime of extractions. A bit of internet research can tell you where to find Smile
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downwardsfromzero
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#9 Posted : 10/1/2015 5:19:50 PM
3rdI wrote:
bartoline low odour white spirit works, but it takes forever to evaporate if you need to reduce it.

Do lots of pulls of small volume. Recrystallise from small volume of a more volatile solvent to free from residue. Mini A/B also worth considering, again using a more volatile solvent.

I suppose it's a time vs. money equation to a certain extent.




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woody
#10 Posted : 10/1/2015 7:42:34 PM
Bull brand lighter fluid is good if you're in the UK.
 
DoingKermit
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#11 Posted : 10/1/2015 10:24:11 PM
I have used quite a few brands of naphtha for extractions in the UK (Bartoline low odour WS, Swan, Newport, and Ronsonol). The low odour white spirit takes a long time to evaporate, but actually holds more DMT due to it being a "heavy naphtha"... Not worth it IMO. I'd say all the other brands of "light naphtha" I mentioned are basically the same as each other and due to the faster evap rate, they are a superior solvent for extracting DMT. I have had clean evap tests on all of them and my yields were all very comparable too.

I hope that's of some help to you!
 
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#12 Posted : 10/2/2015 8:50:05 AM
DoingKermit wrote:
I have used quite a few brands of naphtha for extractions in the UK (Bartoline low odour WS, Swan, Newport, and Ronsonol). The low odour white spirit takes a long time to evaporate, but actually holds more DMT due to it being a "heavy naphtha"... Not worth it IMO. I'd say all the other brands of "light naphtha" I mentioned are basically the same as each other and due to the faster evap rate, they are a superior solvent for extracting DMT. I have had clean evap tests on all of them and my yields were all very comparable too.
I hope that's of some help to you!


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