concombres wrote:Klustor I reccommend against using the machine. It works but Ime the vapor produced is very hot, harsh, & leaves a bad taste & numbness in the mouth.
You will have much better results doing something similar to the machine with a water bong. Copper mesh disk fitted into the downstem works pretty nicely & the vapor is smooth & cool.
I was thinking about using a bong to cool the vapor also yeah, but i'm kinda worried i might break it while putting it down or something..
I might pick up something like this

looks like i can easily hold that in one hand and its pretty cheap so if i break that one i won't care