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ACRB, A/B, Defatting DMT-Acetate Stage with NaCl Salt; Does DMT acetate become more polar with NaCl? Options
 
UgaDuga
#1 Posted : 5/12/2015 7:53:29 PM
I performed a defat during the acetate stage using Naptha.... this caused light foamy emulsion; I added salt to try break the emulsion and help separate any contaminants.... the added NaCl soaked the naptha with extremely heavy red/black tar, floating on top about an inch thick... and after leaving in the fridge it was hard like a rock. The bottom of the container was covered with a film of glossy dark red goo... I kept both of these layers in case the DMT-Acetate polarized and migrated into one or the other.

If the DMT-Acetate remains souly in the aqueous solution, this cleaning was obviously a resounding success... however I am concerned that the DMT-Acetate may be trapped in one of the layers of tar.... is this possible? Does DMT acetate polarize after salting? Why and how? Is there anyway to test this?
 
UgaDuga
#2 Posted : 5/13/2015 1:10:49 AM
My question was answered by a chemist Here: https://chemistry.stacke...-in-h2o-with-added-nacl

"Does NaCl cause DMT acetate (or any acetate) to become polar in H2O?

In aqueous acidic solution, that is in the presence of a sufficient amount of acetic acid, N,N-dimethyltryptamine is protonated. The acetate is the counter ion of the ammonium salt. The compound does not become more polar by adding sodium chloride!

Will the DMT acetate have migrated into any of these two polar layers?

Are you having two polar layers? I doubt it. You're having a top unpolar layer, the aqueous layer and some gunk.

Take the separated aqueous layer, neutralize carefully, extract with an unpolar solvent of your choice, dry over sodium sulfate, remove the solvent in vacuum. If necessary, recrystallize and determine the yield.

Please keep in mind that DMT is a controlled substance in many countries!"
 
UgaDuga
#3 Posted : 5/13/2015 1:12:01 AM
My apologies. Indeed there was a top unpolar solvent saturated with plant tars hardened like a rock, the aqueous solution, and goo below. I have never seen any account of sodium chloride used in the Acetate stage to enhance de-fatting. Most suggest using water only. Is the addition of sodium chloride at this stage is worth while? I am surprised with the quantity of plant material removed. After shaking the material heavily, the solvent was not recoverable, it turned into an inch thick layer of air filled tar...
 
 
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