I learned this from my teacher Ivo in Mexico, with complete explanation why this works so well, so all credit and my immense gratitude go to him. It is a very simple pharmahuaska recipe and produces amazing results. It may work with Mimosa, Caapi, etc, but is not tested. You need clear white goo produced by Acacia Confusa extraction and pure Harmine/Harmaline. You measure equal quantities of both. Then you heat the goo in a water bath until it is runny and put the Harmala extract in it and mix thoroughly. Then you saturate fine rolling paper with this (organic hemp is best, as it does not burn easily) and let the papers dry. You can store them like this probably indefinitely. When you need them - put some of it in a vaporizer, but start with a low dose - that's it! There is some magic happening when you actually mix the goo and the harmalas and store them mixed. For the chemically inclined this may be an interesting thing to investigate with letters and numbers, but I prefer the experiential explanation I received which makes much more sense to me (and which will make immediate sense to anyone who tries this). It is that the energy of the DMT and the Harmalas complement and balance each other, the DMT being the masculine and the Harmalas the feminine, figuratively speaking and they have to be mixed and left like this in order to have enough time to mingle, so to speak. This information may be common shamanic knowledge, and may probably exist somewhere in the nexus as well, but for some reason it made sense to me just now. I have had very extensive experience with many substances for 35 years, and also with DMT and Harmalas taken together in all kinds of ways, but I have never taken anything so gentle and powerful as what is produced by this exact method. Pre mixing the DMT and Harmalas seems to produce something very special. Hope this helps. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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Nice. Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.
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Ingenious. I'm just now in planning stages, but very much want to experience harmalas with DMT. Yet to imbibe aya, I've only ever smoalked the spice alone.From reports that I've read regarding how harmalas smooth out the spice, making it less turbulent and calm the mind so that the hyperspace can be recalled with greater ease I have become intrigued. While spending hours in hyperspace sounds great to me, I'm lacking the safe environment and reliable sitter to do so. Smoking pharma sounds like the answer, Regarding the esoteric explanation your teacher relates through you, hey, calming,tempering? You don't have to convince me. Sounds kinda like what good female energy does to me! This method seems like a great way to go. I've used similar technique with mj extracts and doubt the paper would bother my errr,tempered lungs. Thanks! Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon *γνῶθι σεαυτόν*
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null24 wrote: Ingenious. I'm just now in planning stages, but very much want to experience harmalas with DMT. Yet to imbibe aya, I've only ever smoalked the spice alone.From reports that I've read regarding how harmalas smooth out the spice, making it less turbulent and calm the mind so that the hyperspace can be recalled with greater ease I have become intrigued. While spending hours in hyperspace sounds great to me, I'm lacking the safe environment and reliable sitter to do so. Smoking pharma sounds like the answer, Regarding the esoteric explanation your teacher relates through you, hey, calming,tempering? You don't have to convince me. Sounds kinda like what good female energy does to me! This method seems like a great way to go. I've used similar technique with mj extracts and doubt the paper would bother my errr,tempered lungs. Thanks! Well, my experience so far with the above method is that with vaporization you can have a trip which lasts about an hour, and is in every way as potent as the full ayahuasca experience, minus the body problems. Then there is a very long strong afterglow - maybe about 2-3 hours. So it is the perfect middle point between the normal smoking of dmt (which is way too short and sudden) and the full blown trip you would get by eating the mixture. This mixture works orally too, but the trip is 8 hours straight. No nausea, no vomiting, nothing - for the several people who have tried it so far. Also, as I mentioned above, the mixture feels different than taking the two components one by one. It is different than, say, vaporizing harmalas and then vaporizing DMT. I have tried all those methods but for some reason this is different, and in my opinion, much better. As for the paper - if it is organic hemp paper (OCB brand) it doesn't even get brown in the vaporiser. But the vapor of the mixture itself can be a bit harsh. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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Well, my experience so far with the above method is that with vaporization you can have a trip which lasts about an hour, and is in every way as potent as the full ayahuasca experience, minus the body problems. Then there is a very long strong afterglow - maybe about 2-3 hours. So it is the perfect middle point between the normal smoking of dmt (which is way too short and sudden) and the full blown trip you would get by eating the mixture. This mixture works orally too, but the trip is 8 hours straight. No nausea, no vomiting, nothing - for the several people who have tried it so far.
This sounds nice.. Is This mixture of DMT and Harmalas using [[acacia confusa goo?]] Taking it oraly..How much goo and harmalas will create an 8 hour trip?
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starway6 wrote:
This sounds nice.. Is This mixture of DMT and Harmalas using [[acacia confusa goo?]] Taking it oraly..How much goo and harmalas will create an 8 hour trip?
Yes, this is a mixture of equal quantities of AC clear goo and pure (near white) Harmine/Harmaline (from Rue extraction). The resulting product is light brown and has a modeling clay-like consistency. You can coat rolling paper with it during the mixing phase while it is still runny, or smear it with a knife on rolling paper later for vaporization. The last point is needed since it vaporises best when it is in thin film, rather than a ball of wax. For an 8 hour oral trip start with 200-250 mg of this mixture in a capsule (which will contain 100-125 mg of each DMT and Harmalas). This may be a lot for some but it will be a small dose for most people, and for them will be a 1-2 hour long experience. When you reach your optimal dose however, you will need to set aside a whole day. Expect the onset in about one hour. The peak will last several hours. Then the comeback will be in waves and will take a long time. You will need a sitter who knows what he/she is doing, and if you really want to do it properly, you do it with a shaman. 8 hours seems to be standard for returning to near baseline, although you can feel the afterglow for a long time afterwards, even for days. You can gradually go as far as 500mg of this compound for a very serious full-length experience. Everyone is different, so please start low and be mindful and educate yourself on the effects of Harmalas, DMT, etc. Acacia can be very, very unforgiving. If you decide to do it you do it on your own risk. I am just sharing information which I heard from elsewhere. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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Sounds great! What extraction method are you using to obtain the goo? Which salt form is it? Does it need to be acacia, or can it be a mhrb extracted dmt-salt goo? How do you eat the laced paper? Could you stuff the paper in empty capsules? Cheers some = one | here = some | there = one
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some one wrote:Sounds great!
What extraction method are you using to obtain the goo? Which salt form is it? Does it need to be acacia, or can it be a mhrb extracted dmt-salt goo? How do you eat the laced paper? Could you stuff the paper in empty capsules?
Cheers There are a lot of extraction methods which are well documented and I don't want to repeat them. The only thing I would recommend is that an acid step is needed with Acacia. The goo is usually freebase and not in salt form. And... of course you do not need to eat paper (unless you feel so disposed for some strange reason). The paper is only for vaporisation. When you go the oral route you use only the mixture itself in a capsule. No need to convert anything to a salt, however this could be done. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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Oh freebase. by goo you mean solid dmt christals, I got confused thought you meant sticky salt form. some = one | here = some | there = one
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some one wrote:Oh freebase. by goo you mean solid dmt christals, I got confused thought you meant sticky salt form. Nope. By goo I mean goo. It can be freebase too. It does not need to be solid in order to be freebase. Educate yourself. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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you capitalized 'Goo' in 'Goo-gone', so I thought you meant the adhesive removing solvent (which is probably limonene and some aliphatics). "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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benzyme wrote:you capitalized 'Goo' in 'Goo-gone', so I thought you meant the adhesive removing solvent (which is probably limonene and some aliphatics). That was a joke. Lighten up. Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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get over yourself. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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benzyme wrote:get over yourself. How does one do that?? Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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geko wrote:benzyme wrote:get over yourself. How does one do that?? astral projection. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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benzyme wrote:geko wrote:benzyme wrote:get over yourself. How does one do that?? astral projection. Oh... the Goo-gone method does that Don’t follow past thoughts, don’t anticipate the future, and don’t follow illusory thoughts that arise in the present, but turning within, observe your own true nature and maintain awareness of your natural mind, just as it is. ~ Garab Dorje
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I'm going to give this a shot in the dark. I do appreciate this approach theoretically, obviously through wanting to give it a shot. Though, I wish there were more specific details...
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Definitely sounds like something worth trying, time to get to work.
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Would be interested to see if similar results are achieved with mimosa. Mimosa is supposedly stronger, so would different ratios be needed? Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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