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Issue with Extraction - Is the environment too humid? Options
 
Dillett7799
#1 Posted : 1/3/2015 12:00:24 AM
During an extraction, the results were not as expected. ACRB was used in a freeze extraction of naphtha. Then to expedite the process instead of re-using the naphtha the solution was left out over a light fan for aprox. 8 hours. The solution is now a stick clear substance, and its believed that this is due to the high humidity the experiment was preformed in, average 80 percent. The solution is now under a fan with a higher volume of airflow. Would baking the solution reduce it to get rid of whatever is left in the pan? Was a mistake made somewhere that made a solution that wasn't what was expected? I can go into more detail of the exact steps that were taken in this experiment if needed.

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downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#2 Posted : 1/3/2015 12:10:04 AM
Are not ACRB extracts often oily on account of the NMT content? If you try baking it, you will almost certainly screw things up.

Techniques exist for separating NMT and DMT. Carbamate formation using dry ice being among said techniques.




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downwardsfromzero
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#3 Posted : 1/3/2015 12:11:36 AM
And preformed experiments are notoriously unreliable Pleased




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Dillett7799
#4 Posted : 1/3/2015 12:32:25 AM
meaning that methodology is unreliable?
 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#5 Posted : 1/3/2015 2:27:26 AM
Whose methodology?

P.S. I think I covered things in my first reply, hope it helps.




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Spaced Out 2
#6 Posted : 1/3/2015 4:24:30 AM
You haven't mentioned what method you used, but if you don't do a defat with acrb you will almost always end up with that. It won't hurt anything, you can scrape it all up and set aside to dry which takes a long time to dry to a crust, but smokable. Or do a recrystallization on it which will remove a lot of the oils. There's a ton of info on here just for that, do some reading.
 
anrchy
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#7 Posted : 1/3/2015 4:47:24 AM
In your post you said you didnt reuse the naphtha so you left it out to evap. But you also said you did the freezer part. Not really understanding what the pictures are of. Did you freeze precip then after scraping evap the naphtha and this is what you have or you skipped the freezer and just evapped?
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