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#21 Posted : 10/17/2014 11:42:56 PM
My analogy used to be: psychedelics is like watching porn. It can feel real, but can't be compared to the real deal. Porn has its uses. The effect of the sensory input can feel good. It can show you what something you haven't experience yet can be like. Or teach you new things and give more inspiration. But in the end, porn is just an optical illusion, not the real deal.

I like the mountain analogy must better though hahah. Will be using that one instead from now on. Thanks for sharing Pleased

That being said, meditation is the way forward.

Wish I did more of it..
some = one | here = some | there = one
 
Enoon
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#22 Posted : 10/18/2014 4:37:53 AM
some wise people have said things like "the path is the goal". For me this rings very true. I don't believe in there being a summit we need to reach or in a steady-state enlightenment. I believe in a constant process of inner evolution and progress. A path that we walk continuously without ever "getting there". I think feelings of "having got there" are just another illusion or trick to make us comfortable and keep us from moving forward.

In this sense psychedelics to me often have indicated directions for me by showing me possibilities. Not real possibilities but emotional choices - things like patiences or impatience, opening up and allowing for things to happen, allowing for the natural enthusiasm to surface, being able to see opportunities, etc.

After the psychedelic experience I might feel very good and connected, but this is not real change. Real change is making an internal and sometimes very tough decision to alter your You, and being that process of change, being 100% behind it, full time. It takes courage and determination to change deliberately rather than just drifting in the wind. But this is where psychedelics can help us also. They can show you what it takes. They cannot however give it to you.

But look at it from the bright side - the way is the goal. You, trying to change, you, slowly changing, is already change. You are already in the process, without realizing it. Just keep going. Each step takes effort along the way, but as long as you're walking, you're good. IMO, rather than keep doing psychedelics, once you realize what you have to do for the next step of your path, it's time to take a break and do some real work. In times of tough decisions I tell myself "baby steps" as a mantra, to remind myself that I don#t have to do everything at once. But that if I keep taking small small steps towards where I want to go, I'll eventually hit that mark and can progress from there.
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steppa
#23 Posted : 10/19/2014 7:24:04 AM
I'd click the "like" button for this, Enoon. Very well put. Smile
Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
 
DisEmboDied
#24 Posted : 11/5/2014 3:44:08 PM
There are many beneficial effects which linger on past the initial revelation. They are hidden more subtly in the foundations of the person or psyche.

These revelations have stuck with me:

Interconnectedness, the most obvious, happens during almost all psychedelic trips, but is still a great lesson or reminder. One feels that he or she is not only one with the universe, but that him or her and the universe are one and the same thing, that there is no subject or object, that all is simply part of one exact process.


Reincarnation, In the past, to my mind, reincarnation was no more or less than a faith, no different than a belief in Heaven or Hell, but time after time, I wound up somewhere where I felt like I had been before a hundred times, when I had never seen that place before in this lifetime. I was also welcomed back as if “they” knew me immediately. They told me “How are you?! Welcome back! It’s been a while since you have been here!” While I just stood there in awe wondering how I have been there before, and how do these beings recognize me. Not exactly like de-ja-vue--I was really standing in a place that I know that I have never been, but recognized it like my front door, and was greeted by beings who knew without question that I had been there many times. I now consider reincarnation a good possibility.


Pantheism, every time I immediately get the feeling that the trees, plants, grass, rocks, clouds, etc., are just as aware of me as I am of them, there is no question. They are looking at me, seeing me, and telepathically communicating to me that they are there, and that they have much to teach me. Often each leaf on a tree, in a bunch of trees, each had a face, or an entity-ness about them, and was “showing” themselves to me, since I was on a frequency that could observe it. Rocks in a waterfall once “showed” themselves to me and communicated that they were just as aware, they were staring directly at me. ***Electro-magnetism***.



The Divine in Every item, every particle, since all are interconnected and are a part of the picture. A piece of sunlight shining through a window shade on a wall, a leaf, a blade of grass, a door hinge, a wooden floor plank, the meeting point of the corner of a room, a strand of hair, etc., all contain the divine eternal—all of existence, and can represent all of existence by that one single piece or particle. I once experienced, first the suffering of all of my family, by staring at, and being in the presence of a few inches wide and tall piece of sunlight shining on a white wall, as I went further I experienced the suffering of the whole world, of all humanity all at once. I also experienced the whole of nature and the cosmos through a single blade of grass. Divinity, as in the essence of natural creation, was and can be experienced by one single item, because it is not an item in itself or by itself, but does not or cannot exist without the whole universe, it is not necessarily an item, but a process, one which represents that something can exist, and that since it does exist, then so does the rest of the universe in which it exist. Divine, shining, blinding revelation can be shown to the enlightened ones which have opened their heads. This makes life so much more wonderful, partaking in the awe of children.



Eternity in every moment, all is happening at once. When only the present state, which is the only true state, is immersed, then all of existence becomes eternally present, all of eternity happens from moment to moment. The future only exists in thought, the past has vanished and often only exists in tattered, fallacious memories, so the present ‘Now’ is the only real time. Every time I entered into this state, I became fully aware that eternity is in every moment, from moment to moment. This is truth. One cannot truly live if one never achieves the ability to be consistently aware of the present state.


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Everything as organism, in that there are no singularities, but multiplicities of objects, which are comprised of other objects, creating other organisms. Light, energy, as organism, which feeds electrons, which feed atoms, which feeds what we call matter, which are entangled into other organisms, but which together are another organism itself. An example is the light comprised electrons which electromagnetically hold together the grass, together as a whole are an organism as itself. Each blade of grass is undeniably an organism, but the grass together as a whole is another organism. The grass and trees each by themselves are an organism, but the grass and trees together make up another organism. The ocean alongside these grasses and trees make up an organism itself, the clouds are an organism, each cloud by itself, and the clouds as a whole. Fire on the Earth is an organism, an as excerpt from my Reflections and Illuminations for Higher Existence explains: “Fire is a living thing: it breathes, it eats or consumes, it wastes, it multiplies or grows, and seemingly desires.”
The planet as a whole is an organism, the solar system is an organism, the galaxy is an organism, collections of galaxies are organisms, the galaxies all together which make up the Universe are an organism, if there are other Universes, then the collection of those are an organism, possibly a piece of matter like a molecule of a rock, which would then be an organism. From each electron made of light, to all the rest of the rotating, circulating systems of all of existence, no matter what level of dimension, make up an organism by itself, and an organism connected to its surroundings, including all systems of nature.

Besides reincarnation, all of this is simply science.


It's just that the feeling of being a God/special being wears away...and I am left to being back a regular...
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Mr.Peabody
#25 Posted : 11/6/2014 3:29:28 AM
I had many of the same feelings a while ago about the two week limit (I think I even titled a thread with that). I noticed exactly the same thing, even the time scale, which I think is evidence of something important (biological changes?) but of what, who knows. Its like everything is effortless for that couple of weeks, I'm calm, collected, and in tune with the wonder of it all. It's like driving down freshly paid asphalt, and then abruptly hitting that rough torn up old road that rattles your things around.

One of the ways it's helped me to look at it is by thinking its kind of the magic's way of saying, "Well, I've led you this far, the rest is up to you." So, to parallel others' sentiments, it is a way of putting in the work, making yourself intentionally walk the path. It is hard, though.

I have had a very long dry spell with psychedelics lately. Life has afforded me little opportunity to really let go, and get into the experience, not to mention even offer the time to do them. It's been hard, being forcefully weened off of them. For a while I spent my time wishing I could reenter that world. I was fixated on it, but as time ha gone on I have realized, I have the power to make the changes in myself. The psychedelics have given me a knowledge, a goal to strive for. That peaceful state of mind, where I am frictionless, an electron set loose in the superconducting crystal lattice that is this magnificent universe.

I am far from that most of the time. I am seldom satisfied with myself, but I feel this phase in my life has afforded me no greater opportunity for improvement than any other I have lived. While I have been unable to really take psychedelic journeys lately, where I am now is far more different than where I would have been, had I never walked this path.

Lately, to cope with my feelings of lacking magic, I have been reading. There are books out there that can give you the same sense of magic the psychedelics do. Carl Sagan, Joseph Campbell, and Aldous Huxley, Dennis McKenna, and Terrence McKenna are a few of the ones that can do this for me. It has proved invaluable to read some great philosophy by such great minds.

About the work required to change the self, Alan Watts said something that firmly planted itself in my mind. He said don't try to change yourself, just get interested in something. When you find something truly worthy of your attention, passion, and talent, everything else will naturally fall in line. I really believe that.

Go listen to some Alan Watts on youtube!
Be an adult only when necessary.
 
Iseeyou
#26 Posted : 11/6/2014 3:49:52 AM
I think Im going through that right now,,,,

I just feel like,,, I don't know, things bother me the same way they used to bother me,, I do graphic design I felt the block I was feeling before going in for my first session,,, I'm missing my ex a whole lot more (spent 8 years with her, broke up 2 months ago)

I just feel like the "magic" is gone...

BUT, everything else's still here, I figured that If I excercise and meditate I feel so "empty" again, because that's the magic I felt when I tried bufo,, Just Pure and beautiful Emptiness,,, but right now I feel like my cup's getting filled,.... but everytime I excersise or meditate It kinda feels like home again :]


Don't rely on going back just to feel,, before you know It you're going to create some dependency like any other drug, and you wont feel "normal" if ure not tripping on something.. I started smoking weed a week ago,, and this last few days I've been smoking alot, I think that makes the perception tunnels to fade away... because that's all it is when you use psycs,, It gives you insight, It helps to open the doors, windows of perception..

and when you start acting like a common human you start feeling like a common human ..

:] wow this thread just helped me realize something really cool! :]
 
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