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Droopy
#1 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:08:35 PM
Hey folks, I've been absent for awhile on a soul searching quest. My recent ayahuasca attempts did not go so well, I blame it on weak material, I felt very minimal effects from 200/200g. Regardless I was able to find myself through deep meditation and self reflection.

Anyway I am hoping someone could help me with a very simple pre-defat step via the use of xylene.

After about a year of experimenting with different teks and implementing new ideas and methods of extraction, my friend has come up with his own tek always yielding 2%+ even after re-crystallization and would very much like to use his own tek on acacia confusa and see end results. However he has only worked with mimosa hostillis and never done a defat step.

I have done some research on the subject of defatting, it seems my friend will have to acidify his bark solution and than add xylene to the mix to pull out the plant fats? Is this the only method? Is it the best method? Could re-crystallization be used to get rid of fats as well (I had read this somewhere?)

Today (sunday) will be my friends only day off for probably the next two weeks, he has taken up working 12hour shifts monday-sunday to help support his madre whom has just recently lost her job. He would very much like to complete at least one pull today if at all possible, as he will only have 3-6hours a day for any kind of research or experimenting between work and sleep. He's also heard that efficient defatting takes up to 12 hours. Is this true? Is there anyway to speed up the reaction?

Thanks for any and all posts.

Love, light and peace be with you all! Wink
 
Droopy
#2 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:20:10 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I would like to add, that my friend had already started an acid defatting step about 4hours ago and has already removed one solution of xylene/plant fats and was going to continue with two more pulls and than continue onto his tek, but still would like any and all advice in regards to defatting. As he does not want to spend his only day off on an extraction that has disappointing end results.

Thanks again.

Love you all.
 
Earthwalker
#3 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:34:55 PM
Droopy wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but I would like to add, that my friend had already started an acid defatting step about 4hours ago and has already removed one solution of xylene/plant fats and was going to continue with two more pulls and than continue onto his tek, but still would like any and all advice in regards to defatting. As he does not want to spend his only day off on an extraction that has disappointing end results.

Thanks again.

Love you all.



This takes 24hrs start to finish with freeze precipe !! Super easy aswell !!Thumbs up
 
Droopy
#4 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:40:22 PM
24hours for defatting plus extraction? Or defatting alone takes 24hours?
 
Earthwalker
#5 Posted : 9/28/2014 1:46:29 PM
Sorry the Whole TEK 24hrs but if you want just do the defat at the end of the TEK in the link , if doing just the mini ab takes a couple of hours , also it's best when doing a mini ab to combine all 5-6 pulls and then perform defat !!

Edit ,,, I forgot to add the link sorry haha https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=58064&find=unread
 
Droopy
#6 Posted : 9/28/2014 2:19:16 PM
Earthwalker wrote:
Sorry the Whole TEK 24hrs but if you want just do the defat at the end of the TEK in the link , if doing just the mini ab takes a couple of hours , also it's best when doing a mini ab to combine all 5-6 pulls and then perform defat !!

Edit ,,, I forgot to add the link sorry haha https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=58064&find=unread


Thanks man! I am wondering if it all needs to be done out right? Do you think my friend could start it one day do as much as he can, let it sit for about 24hours and continue his extractions the next day?

Also is the freeze step for the same reason I had read on making ayahuasca it bursts the plants cell walls making alkaloids more readily available?
 
Droopy
#7 Posted : 9/28/2014 3:58:48 PM
my friend decided he is going to start one of the teks youve posted earthwalker and one of his own then add the defat step from the tek you posted and continue with his current material he has done a pre-defatting step on and compare end yields.

Thank you for posting.Smile
 
 
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