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LaTorre
#21 Posted : 8/28/2014 6:58:33 PM
Wow! that would be nice.
I think that people should be in line with the main line of the research though. Then might happen to change direction at any time, but to start such effort I think potential co-authors have to understand and agree (more or less) with the hypothesis.

We write collaboratevely at The Leukippos Institute and it works great. Take a look to this publication http://chimera.labs.orei.../1234000002036/ch03.html we've recently done in BioCoder!.

 
Ufostrahlen
#22 Posted : 8/29/2014 10:26:58 AM
I uploaded the redux @ https://translate.google.com/ and copied the result into LibreOffice. This is the PDF export.
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laughingcat
#23 Posted : 8/29/2014 11:24:20 AM
I've had a brief look over. Few points:
Overall, it looks like a lot of work has gone into it and it looks well-researched - I can't comment on the details of the theory, because the auto-translation makes it unreadable to be hnoest. It requires a hell of a lot more than "polishing". The automatic translation is, as expected, a total mess and you really do need to sit down with (not exchange emails with) a native English speaker who speaks fluent Italian and is a postdoc at minimum in a biological sciences field - no shortcut in my academic opinion.

There are a number of stylistic issues that result from a lack of experience and will give you away as inexperienced - this will reduce your chances of the paper being accepted.

For example (not to pick holes but just to show you what I mean), the way you refer to other scientists is a little informal and New Scientist Big grin Do we need to know that Julius Axelrod got the Nobel Prize in 1961?

"Bruce McEwen is one of the greatest scholars of the effects of stress on cognition and behavior" He might be, but this is a bit much...

And phrases like:

"Probably in the bone marrow, other sources claim in the cortex" Which sources? Why probably? References needed please.

"There are also a number of compounds - too little studied - of which among the various hypotheses" Who says they're too little studied? Maybe they're just unimportant. You need to qualify opinions like this or leave them out.

These are little things that can be ironed out with the guidance of someone minimally at postdoc level. The bottom line is that review articles are normally written by academics with many years experience - I was only invited to write a review after completing a PhD in the subject I was reviewing and doing postdoc research. What you have here is a review article with a new hypothesis twist. You need to remember that new theories will be strongly critiqued by the referees and so you need to make sure that everything is water tight.

If I were you, I'd be getting into contact with the leading experts in stress responses etc and asking to meet with them to discuss your ideas... you seem to be a fan of this Bruce McEwen guy, so why not get into contact with him?
 
LaTorre
#24 Posted : 8/29/2014 1:32:26 PM
Thanks guys for your efforts.

Please keep in mind that this draft you see it was a proposal for research to pitch my P.I. in the last lab I was – so all the specifications are colloquial ways to introduce in the tryptamines field somebody that doesn't know all this stuff. Ok, some stuff are way too much maybe but the idea was that of a sort of little thesis. In case this would have become a paper to publish I would have polished that stuff.

If a collaboratively effort is of interest, what I can do is to polish it my self and upload a better (automatic + polished) translated version in months. In case I reach the crowdfunding goal this can be done faster, and I'm absolutely ok in writing something collaboratively and go deeper in the subject, as I already do in other contexts.

all the best
 
laughingcat
#25 Posted : 9/2/2014 1:53:22 PM
 
LaTorre
#26 Posted : 9/5/2014 2:51:43 AM
Yes! I was about to posting it.

By the way I'm receiving a lot of support in quality of time and skills donations, among interest from various part, which is the thing that make happier than else. And of course a little money is also encouraging. Smile


 
LaTorre
#27 Posted : 9/7/2014 11:47:13 AM
Interesting dicsussion with Ede Frescka is going on the comment section here:

https://experiment.com/p...t-hallucinogen/community

Should I invite him here? (if he's not already here Pleased)

Also, I'd like to communicate to those that express the willing to help me with the paper that an italian phD student who lives in Australia propose himslef to translate the paper. In case he will do a good job, this will greatly reduce the waiting for me to post here a nice english version.

Pleased
 
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