Injecting yourself with home-extracted products is extremely dangerous. How do you know there were no traces or solvent, or plant matter, or any other contaminants?

Just because it looks like he's having a blast doesn't mean it's safe. I've seen people inject heroin, and let me tell you, the look like they're having a grand old time.

(Edit : apologies for the multiple misspellings prior to this edit, ugh)
I got tired of fighting my phone trying to quote your last comment, natty, and i must say, if you and i were to meet in real life, we'd have some good arguments, judging by our online interactions, ha!

While i must agree with the generalities of your assessment, and must as well make an obligatory 'don't do it at home , kids' statement, I see vast differences between the actions of someone injecting heroin as opposed to dmt. An iv route using 5,meo-dmt was my intro to this wonderful family of alks and to this community as well. It saved my life. Being an old junky may have been the impetus to try that method as i have great familiarity with needles and little to no fear of them. Just because a object is used to consume a poison doesn't mean it's always used in in such fashion. I cooked all my shots of heroin in spoons should i use something else to eat my Wheaties?

That's taking the metaphor on out there, i know, don't get hung on the semantics, in just trying to make a point.

Dmt ,like anything from heroin to love can be abused by a human dead set on abusing it. You can't stop someone who has that self destructive impulse, even with all the great info, compassion and empathy y'all show here. However, the chance of this is very small. I don't feel i need to discuss the physical, metaphysical,spiritual or other properties of heroin opposed to our ally here, its unnecessary, even those ignorant in experience with it could recognize the differences and inherent dangers.

I'm truly not trying to troll or be contrary, natty, youhave made many good points on this forum, but i feel that the stigma associated with the roa stands before discussion of it sometimes. There are a couple good treads here on it, but i fear that a lack of information could lead to reckless exploration

The biggest danger i see with the ops post is iming a freebase, but the experimenter seems to have done his research.

Although I'm a fan of injecting dmt this does sound a bit careless.
The wheel filter does take care of some of the problems but there is no guaranty that the extract you produced is free of solvents and other potential harmful substances.


Without testing you can't know this.

last,
I would advice against injecting this crude acrb extract, or supplying someone that wants to inject this. Protect him from himself.

I was under the impression that if you were to boil something the way my friend did, you wouldnt have to worry about impurities even if there were small trace amounts when you started, espescially after micron wheel. i could be wrong, but then again, i have never used a needle.

i spoke to him today, he's fine, still no soreness or any problems. I myself, will never try this.

i am not going to permit him to get it from me in order to try a breakthrough, i have made up my mind about that. After reading these replies, i will not aid in something that could possible hurt anyone.

thank you very much, this was the point of me posting.

If your friend is just looking for a way to administer a long trip he can drink a maoi tea containing specimen. from what I understand from my experiences and research it pushes the trip after inhaling freebase to around 15 20 min. correct me if im wrong guys, but this is what I have heard and read over my experiences, I have yet to try this method tho maybe I will? lol

Cant lose right?lol

Namaste,

---dls---

actually, he just doesn't like to smoke anything, and the last time he drank ayahuasca, he had horrible nausea, so he has a predisposed fear of ingesting DMT in an oral manner. He just wanted to find a way to experience the beauty of travelling without having to smoke or worry about throwing up.

That's honestly all it is, Ive never seen him smoke weed, or anything, always edibles or any other route of administration. He has a pretty healthy fear of lung cancer being as it runs in his family, and rightly so- but I am just a little apprehensive about letting him attempt a break through on my stash, in my house...

I would hate to see anything bad happen to him, and I sure as hell don't need any attention drawn towards me. I think it's best I simply deny him access to my DMT. If he wants to do it another way, i'll simply tell him to stick it up his arse!

PLUG IT FTW! (j.k)

IMing ACRB goo is probably the worst idea you can have. You can loose your limbs doing stuff like that. I'm suprised he didn't end up in the hospital having to get his arm chopped off. You think cooking up a pain pill and shooting it up/missing is bad? Which can end up with stroke or loosing limbs. Shooting up a gooey material with tons of impurity from plant material is probably 100x worse. (By the way IMing is just as dangerous as IVing just in different ways imo) Even if he did use a micron filter... whatever gets him off I guess.

lol. exactly my thoughts.

I am not going to perpetuate the urge to do that.

I definitely am glad i posted this, because it really opened my eyes even more than they were before on the health risks.

thanks guys.


Fuck. I feel sorta awful now for even allowing that to happen. I am going to be more careful of whom I share with. It's too sacred of a gift to be losing limbs.

I don"t understand the intent behind this sentence. People look like they are having a grand old time after injecting heroin generally because they are having a grand old time.

I agree with the others about injecting crude extract. If your friend is fully set on their path then get them to have a look at the threads below.....

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=520211#post520211

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=39355

just a little warning,

The procedure outlined by me me in the first thread is not a tek, its just a first thought on such a process.
Also in hind site the ISO steps are better kept out and/or replaced with acetone.

The problem is, unless you have access to something like a gas chromatogrpahy machine, you cannot know if what you're injecting is actually pure, and the problems associated with injecting an in impure product are pretty severe. Combine that with the fact that the vast majority of people doing extractions are doing kitchen chemistry and don't have access to the high degrees of precision needed to get a pharmaceutical-grade product, the odds that you end up injecting something besides just the intended alkaloid are high.

It's not about the needle per-say, but rather, more about the risk. You can take the drug however you want, it's just worth thinking about the realities of what you're doing. It doesn't matter if you're injecting DMT or heroin if there's lye or naptha in solution with your desired molecule.

Blessings
~ND

Gotcha,natty. All your points are very valid. Perhaps i read more into that once line than i should've.