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Potential potentiations w/ harmaloids. Options
 
q21q21
#1 Posted : 11/15/2009 6:46:35 AM
Hey guys SWIM was just thinking since there are tons of experienced space cadets here they might be able to share some info with SWIM and other SWIMs who finally extracted some harmaloids.

Very simple:

Try to work out a chart with as many entries as possible.

Ex:

LSA + Syrian Rue Brew - Increases length and intensity, slight dreamy/stoned aspect added. (Thumbs up)
or
MDMA + Harmaline - Rapid heart rate, dangerous blood pressure increase, possible death (Thumbs down)

That is the general formula just mentioning the very general aspects of the experience and recommendation.


What do you think guys, can we do it?
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Astralking
#2 Posted : 11/26/2009 11:53:52 PM
Well considering this is EXACTLY what i just came on this section of the forum looking for i think this would be a great idea! Smile People just add your own experience as you see fit and i think this could be very useful.
No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. ~P.J. O'Rourke
 
mrwiggle
#3 Posted : 1/12/2014 8:33:41 AM
harmine/hamaline with psilocybe cubensis, extended golden glow- thumbs up

harmine/harmaline with caffeine, stronger buzz with a mellow vibe- thumbs up

harmine/harmaline with ssri's, extreme pain, death- thumbs down
ive received the trans dermal download in the apousal lounge

no disease could possibly survive in such a wiggly environment!

 
endlessness
Moderator
#4 Posted : 1/12/2014 10:33:51 AM
I think it`s important to mention doses.

Im not sure if caffeine is totally safe with harmalas. I have read of several people mentioning significant headaches or other side effects depending on dosage. You can add your own experience here:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ctions_and_their_effects

Just register and log in to the nexus wiki and feel free to contribute Smile
 
rOm
Senior Member
#5 Posted : 1/12/2014 10:49:54 AM
I found caffeine is like ethanol with harmalas, depending on user and dosage, it can yield to unpleasant headache.
Very low dose is okay or even pleasant though- low dose is like a kombucha drink-0,5° ethanol.
A small coffee or better, a tea, a maté or guyasa.
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
PowerfulMedicine
#6 Posted : 1/20/2014 2:25:39 AM
Cannabis + syrian rue - Increased intensity and psychedelia (thumbs up)

Phenethylamine + syrian rue - Effects are dosage dependent. Higher doses are very dangerous and could lead to hypertensive crisis. At low enough doses of both, there could be no effects. Figuring out the right dosage for these two takes a lot of experimentation and can vary greatly from person to person. (thumbs side ways - possibly not recommended?)

LSA + syrian rue - I definitely agree with the previous statement about this combo. I definitely give it a thumbs up, but at higher doses of LSA some respiratory depression is possible.

Caffeine + syrian rue - The rue will greatly potentiate the caffeine, especially the insomnia in my experience. This combo is okay with low doses of caffeine but unsafe with higher doses.

Syrian rue + low dose of Datura - The nausea of the rue is greatly reduced. Possible potentiation and increase in visual effects. (Thumbs up when using threshold doses of Datura. Venture into higher doses at your own risk.)

Maay-yo-naze!
 
PowerfulMedicine
#7 Posted : 3/29/2014 10:14:05 PM
Skullcap + syrian rue - Definite mild potentiation. The effects become more dissociative and alcohol-like. I've used 5g of marsh skullcap (Scutellaria galericulata) and 3g syrian rue (a barely threshold dose for me). The effects were comparable in intensity to 3-4 beers (a relatively low dose to me). I'm sure that other types of skullcap can be substituted with adjusted doses. - (Thumbs up)
Maay-yo-naze!
 
downwardsfromzero
ModeratorChemical expert
#8 Posted : 3/30/2014 4:02:59 PM
Pink Lotus stamens + Papaver orientale stamens (smoked together) + Syrian rue (2.5 g made into tea, orally dosed 4 hrs previously) - very pleasantly surprised to get nearly one hour's worth of eyes closed visual phenomena, euphoria and lassitude. Visions were of the style of flying over beautiful landscapes. The pipe used for smoking may have contained THC residue. (Thumbs up)

P. orientale is neurotoxic so be careful or avoid altogether!




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
DreaMTripper
#9 Posted : 6/26/2014 11:03:48 AM
360mg of piracetam + 300mg alpha gpc 12 hrs before a medium size cone of syrian rue extract smoked in a bong = Thumbs up metaphorical dream messages during sleep and a rejuvinated feeling in the morning. .
Cuts through the BS tells you what you know already but didnt realise or werent willing to realise.
THC optional for extra psychedlic value but the dream messages dont come through clearly.

*the 12 hr time difference between the nootropics and harmala are important I think as harmalas inhibit acetylcholine breakdown, too much ACh could cause medical issues.
 
Enoon
Moderator | Skills: Harm reduction, Analytical thinking
#10 Posted : 6/26/2014 4:47:24 PM
200mg of extracted harmalas from rue converted to fumarates (yuck, the taste was aweful) with 6 drops of LSD (estimated at about 80ug per drop): increased weirdness to the point of absolutely bewildering, full blown entity contact with elaborate communication, extreme nausea, vomiting, absolutely floored for about 4 hours, uncontroled shivering/shaking, cosmic bliss and abject misery... not sure whether to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down... definitely a powerful mix.
Buon viso a cattivo gioco!
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DreaMTripper
#11 Posted : 6/27/2014 10:11:36 AM
woah Shocked Surprised sounds intense!
 
Auxin
#12 Posted : 6/27/2014 6:29:53 PM
The most intense LSD trip of my life was when, while peaking on 3.5 hits, I stumbled onto one of those sativa strains that drastically potentiates LSD. It was so far out that me and my tripping mate named that trip (it was Gumby, and Gumby was good Laughing )
If I was still a ganja smoker and had access to clean LSD I'd try impregnating a non-potentiating bud with freebase harmaline to see what happens.

...I do wonder tho, with the modern ubiquity of fake RC "LSD", is it safe to suggest the combination of harmalas with 'LSD'? The combination of harmaloids with something like 25I-NBOMe, for instance, doesnt sound all that safe.
I miss the good old days when all 'LSD' was either inactive bits of paper or genuine LSD.
 
pitubo
Senior Member
#13 Posted : 6/27/2014 7:59:47 PM
I no longer use Cannabis myself anymore, but I still have my butane honey oil making equipment and bags of leaves. Some time ago I made a little jar of oil for a friend's birthday and I added half a gram of harmala freebase to the (about a gram and a half of) cannabis extract. I did this while the oil was outgassing in a pot of boiling water and the harmala freebase dissolved into the oil very well. It was reportedly a very pleasant and relaxed smoke.

More recently I made a similar concoction bit this time also added some freebase DMT. It is still waiting for a suitable occasion and person to give away.


 
DreaMTripper
#14 Posted : 6/28/2014 6:26:55 AM
Auxin wrote:


...I do wonder tho, with the modern ubiquity of fake RC "LSD", is it safe to suggest the combination of harmalas with 'LSD'? The combination of harmaloids with something like 25I-NBOMe, for instance, doesnt sound all that safe.
I miss the good old days when all 'LSD' was either inactive bits of paper or genuine LSD.


Sounds like a recipe for death by extreme serotonin syndrome to me!

 
Shadowman-x
Senior Member | Skills: Relationship & emotional support/counselling
#15 Posted : 6/28/2014 9:30:36 AM
Harmalas (50mg) + ketamine (59mg) insufflated together leads to strong relaxation , meditation facilitation.
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
 
 
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