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Earthwalker
#1 Posted : 6/14/2014 9:18:45 AM
Hi members , I've had quite a lot of Experiance with dmt it'd be a fair guess at 50+ Flights but the last batch of enhanced leaf I finally added 300mg of harmala freebase ( I might add I didn't extract it was a gift ) to my usual 1 ; 1 ratio with a mixed bag of mullein , passionflower , peppermint , but since adding the harmala I'm constantly bombarded of a dark feeling & dark entities that it's made me accually want to flush the batch down the toilet ,, has anyone had a similar Experiance with this type of thing or hints on how to once again feal comfortable enough to venture back into dmt land !!
 
DreaMTripper
#2 Posted : 6/14/2014 9:49:08 AM
I cant say I have tried changa of any real power but I have noticed harmalas are good at subtley and gently bringing unconcious fears to the surface.
Maybe confront these enitities and probe where they are coming from?
Or get to know harmala without dmt first and use them as a tool to clear some unconcious baggage.
If needed you could always extract the dmt from the changa using heptane, better than chucking them down the bog!
 
Global
Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports
#3 Posted : 6/14/2014 11:44:58 AM
It was when I started adding harmalas regularly to my smoked sessions that I started encountering large negative entities that were quite powerful. I pretty much discontinued that practice shortly after. I also tend to like DMT without harmalas because of the pure aesthetics of that experience without the coloring from the harmalas. I like to enjoy DMT for itself.

It's truly unfortunate that they can steal your experiences like that. It would be like living on another planet and you want to teleport to earth, but a lot of the times you try, you end up teleporting to a slave state, or a dangerous ghetto, or inside the house of some organized crime bosses. Sure, maybe you hit Hawaii sometimes or the Great Pyramid in Egypt once in a blue moon, but when you land and are surrounded by unsavory characters, it can be difficult to know how to deal with them, and to want to return.

Aside of the obvious advice people are going to give you in terms of refraining from use for a while, I can offer you what I've used quite effectively to defend myself from negative entities in hyperspace. It won't stop them from showing up it should seem, but at least you can be prepared to not simply be at their mercy. Unraveling Negative Entities
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
Earthwalker
#4 Posted : 6/14/2014 12:12:16 PM
DreaMTripper wrote:
I cant say I have tried changa of any real power but I have noticed harmalas are good at subtley and gently bringing unconcious fears to the surface.
Maybe confront these enitities and probe where they are coming from?
Or get to know harmala without dmt first and use them as a tool to clear some unconcious baggage.
If needed you could always extract the dmt from the changa using heptane, better than chucking them down the bog!


Yeah it's certain that I'm carrying a lot of anxiety lately ,, but it's not to the point of accually flushing the changa , it's just got a icky feeling to this certain batch , maybe it's because of the harmala as this is tge 1st time I've done it , owell it'll sort it self out !! Drool
 
Earthwalker
#5 Posted : 6/14/2014 12:18:28 PM
Global wrote:
It was when I started adding harmalas regularly to my smoked sessions that I started encountering large negative entities that were quite powerful. I pretty much discontinued that practice shortly after. I also tend to like DMT without harmalas because of the pure aesthetics of that experience without the coloring from the harmalas. I like to enjoy DMT for itself.

It's truly unfortunate that they can steal your experiences like that. It would be like living on another planet and you want to teleport to earth, but a lot of the times you try, you end up teleporting to a slave state, or a dangerous ghetto, or inside the house of some organized crime bosses. Sure, maybe you hit Hawaii sometimes or the Great Pyramid in Egypt once in a blue moon, but when you land and are surrounded by unsavory characters, it can be difficult to know how to deal with them, and to want to return.

Aside of the obvious advice people are going to give you in terms of refraining from use for a while, I can offer you what I've used quite effectively to defend myself from negative entities in hyperspace. It won't stop them from showing up it should seem, but at least you can be prepared to not simply be at their mercy. Unraveling Negative Entities


Thank you global , you're spot on with advice as I've encounters the odd bad or evil entity once or twice before and I'm not scared of them at all ! Accually they don't bother me like these ones it's just total mental anguish and cons tent pounding of the harmala keeping me there for a longer time then I feel comfortable with ! Thumbs up
 
ModeratorSenior Member
#6 Posted : 6/14/2014 3:00:14 PM
I've never had any issue with changa. I would usually add 270-290mg of freebase caapi alkaloids per gram of DMT. Most if not all of my experiences have been very rich in character and color, always with an intense grounded narrative. There's much more of a dialogue ime.

Sometimes, flavors of hyperspace come in waves. Sometimes it's all radiant glory seeping with the divine, other times your getting ripped apart by somber, calamitous forces, in the end - what needs done is what needs done (hell or high water as they say).

The worst thing you can do is feed into this, attach yourself and look into it more than is needed.

Accept whatever may come on it's own terms. Give in, fully to whatever happens, ,just smile and accept.

Just remember, whether it's trickster entities, gods, demons, or whatever other form that chooses to present themselves...it all springs forth from the same place. And remember that whatever comes forth, it shall pass. Whether 'positive' or 'negative', both are needed - the duality. A cosmic dance with it's highs and lows.

the river is wild

<3



 
Earthwalker
#7 Posted : 6/15/2014 2:52:43 AM
Tattvamasi wrote:
I've never had any issue with changa. I would usually add 270-290mg of freebase caapi alkaloids per gram of DMT. Most if not all of my experiences have been very rich in character and color, always with an intense grounded narrative. There's much more of a dialogue ime.

Sometimes, flavors of hyperspace come in waves. Sometimes it's all radiant glory seeping with the divine, other times your getting ripped apart by somber, calamitous forces, in the end - what needs done is what needs done (hell or high water as they say).

The worst thing you can do is feed into this, attach yourself and look into it more than is needed.

Accept whatever may come on it's own terms. Give in, fully to whatever happens, ,just smile and accept.

Just remember, whether it's trickster entities, gods, demons, or whatever other form that chooses to present themselves...it all springs forth from the same place. And remember that whatever comes forth, it shall pass. Whether 'positive' or 'negative', both are needed - the duality. A cosmic dance with it's highs and lows.

the river is wild

<3
Thank you for you're advice ,, and you're right , whether I admit it or not I've had a fair share of stress lately and I think it's that and that alone that feeding into these tricksters or just out nasty entities because whether we like to admit it they are there in this wonderful dance as you say !

Late last night I gave it one last shot with this batch before giving it away and I must say it was the most beautiful Experiance of my life , there was no beauty in colour form is was mainly the loud high pitch noise with the most unusual vibration sensation with a euforea , along with flashes of my family members who has passed away , it was simply divine , so much so I don't think it will ever be topped off ! Love thank you all for you're advice I am so happy that I belong to a group ( community ) that give great advice and accually care ! Thank you



 
Felnik
#8 Posted : 6/15/2014 9:30:35 PM
It's funny how some batches have weird energy.
Sometimes I find it tricky when I start believing that a certain
batch is tainted in some way. I have a current batch that's been
rather tricky to deal with . I've yet to determine if it's
me or the stuff . I've always thought based on my experience
that dmt without caapi or teacher element is when it gets
dicey and dark . Are you guys suggesting the opposite is true ?
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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yamma1
#9 Posted : 6/15/2014 10:01:44 PM
Felnik wrote:
. I have a current batch that's been
rather tricky to deal with . I've yet to determine if it's
me or the stuff .



Or it could be neither you or the stuff. It could well be the force that is present at that moment.

I have some enhanced leaf, mullien and DMT 1:1 ratio. I have had profoundly different trips off the same batch. two were awful trips. very scarey with no visual fractuals. at one point during the trip it went completely white, as in vision and in state. was as if NOTHING existed at all. I mean nothing, me, this world, hyperspace etc.

Yet the next night, same batch amount, my diet the day was identical to before, yet it was pure bliss.

so maybe WE or the DMT itself do not control the trip and what we experience. we could ALWAYS be in the presence of the power, good or bad, and when we hit that pipe. whatever is there is seen

just my 2 cents

“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.”

Terrence Mckenna
 
Global
Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports
#10 Posted : 6/16/2014 12:19:40 PM
Felnik wrote:
It's funny how some batches have weird energy.
Sometimes I find it tricky when I start believing that a certain
batch is tainted in some way. I have a current batch that's been
rather tricky to deal with . I've yet to determine if it's
me or the stuff . I've always thought based on my experience
that dmt without caapi or teacher element is when it gets
dicey and dark . Are you guys suggesting the opposite is true ?


I'm suggesting that both possibilities can be heavily likely. I simply noticed that my dark encounters seemed to have been exacerbated by using harmalas. Certainly with the potentiation, the blisses are extra blissful, but those dark encounters are also way bigger than normal as well.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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