Hello everyone!

Recently SWIM ~200 mg of DMT and, unfortunately, mostly wasted it. Even prior to that experience, he was afraid to vaporize it, because of fear of him doing it incorrectly and leading to loss of spice.


but deffenetely wants to have a breat through experience.

SWIM's attemt at using his version of 'the Machine' failed and the only partial success came is with use of alluminum foil. The effects were quite noticible, but it was no where near of a breakthrough, and we all know alluminum foil is bad.

The rest was snorted with minimal success.

Now, SWIM is paranoid about trying it again, as he is afraid of wasting it, what should he do?
Swim is also not ready for a large dose of Ayahuasca (or a substitute) for a breathrough, as it will be a long experience.

I recommended SWIM to try using a glass nutmeg bottle. It's about 5 inchess tall, and 2 inchess diagnal (the base is square). Would using it in a lightbulb-like vaporizer set up work at all?

Thank you!

Do not heat glass bottles up like they are a meth pipe. Not sure if that's what you were implying but I thought I would say that.

Either try the sandwich method using some sort of herb or ash, infuse some sort of herb with dmt ala enhanced leaf, buy a gvg if you plan on sticking around for awhile, or get a meth pipe.

My first experience was with a meth pipe. If you are cautious with the heat you can go far with this method. It's cheap and easy to use. Not very efficient but just be careful with the heat.

Breakthrough experiences are great and all but I really don't think that should be your first objective.

Yes, i'd also go with the sandwich method, if you have a bong then just put in some screens at the bottom, cover it with ashes,/DMT/ashes, and perhaps a screen on top, but not necessary.

If you don't have a bong then cut off the bottom of a plastic bottle and wrap thin foil around it, take it back off, put DMT in the middle, put it back around the bottle and heat it, gently, until everything is evaporated, then inhale.

Success.

Thank you all.

SWIM doesn't plan to do DMT often enough for an expensive pipe, nor does he smoke anything else and has no bong.

He'll try the foil + plastic bottle tek next.

Why not use a nutmeg container as a meth-pipe type of appliance? SWIM tried it, and it can take some heat.

I'm not sure if it'll work so well, i never tried it, but the bottle/foil method will work 100%.

Here's a link with a pictorial on how to make it, somewhere below the thread you'll see it.

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Good luck.

Thank you very much. I found this while reasearching once, but didn't think too much of it. I don't think it's that harmful to do it once or twice. (Regarding plastic and foil)

If you heat carefully you won't melt any plastic and won't have fumes from that, it's important to keep the heat fairly low, just high enough to vaporize, but once it starts to vaporize it's better to keep the flame away a little, and then closer again when it stops vaporizing, that way you won't burn your precious crystals, and it's not harsh to inhale either.

Wont the smoke condense on the plastic bottle? Or is it low enough for it to work well?

Uhg, why don't you try something better?

Plastic bottle + tin foil =

I'm with anrchy, man. Glass > tin foil and plastic, by a long shot.

You'd be much better off using the "sandwich method" or making a small batch of enhanced leaf than you would be using one of those awful plastic bottle contraptions.

He doesn't have a bong and he already tried the machine with no success, so i don't see any more options than using the plastic bottle method, of course it's not ideal, but it works well apparently.Maybe he could try to take off the bottom of a glass bottle, but it's not easy, but it can be done.

The lightbulb method is something i personally would not do anymore, also, if you want a decent lightbulb then the 400 or 600 watt lamps are "ideal", but i don't think he's a grower.

If he had a bong though i'd go for that as well, it's by far the best option imho if you don't have a VG, GVG, or pipe.

But these aren't options, so he's got to be a little more creative now.

Or we....

there is a very easy answer to this question and that is to buy a small cheap bong, end of story.

You have some DMT, it isnt going anywhere, now save up a shiny pound every week for several weeks then when you have a few of them exchange them for a nice little bong. In these weeks you can do some research and find out what your getting yourself into.

You will smoke the DMT and realise it is the most ridiculously immense thing you have ever done and you will be very glad you saved up and bought a good device that you are now thinking about using again and again and again. and at worst you have wasted a few shiny tokens.

come on pal, get a decent device and maximise your magic, burning it on foil is an insane idea if you are worried about wasting your magic.

That's actually the best idea so far.

i had a moment of clarity

That's exactly it, when you really need to do something you usually come up with the wildest ideas, while patience is often the best solution.