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Finally had what I would call a bad trip Options
 
Tonytone
#21 Posted : 4/23/2014 1:06:17 AM
I've had a single experience on DXM/DMT combined before and it DID NOT TURN OUT. I was in bed and had a DXM extraction powder (allegedly). Me and a friend took it and waited about twenty minutes before smoking our DMT. There was terrifying spiraling mixed with the fractals and geometric patterns . It was very confusing and sickening. I remember sort of falling in and out of the DMT tunnel whilst wretching my midsection with gas or cramps or something. This land was full of twisted preexisting notions and objects, much different that straight DMT.

In regards to Mckenna however, IME I see many strange and impossible machines/morphing castles that stretch waaay past anything I believed existed. In my first breakthrough experience there was a few recognizable objects and ideas but mainly something totally different that your standard life experience just never provides.

I think when Terrance describes unforseable objects and the like hes explaining how he believes the psyche cannot be responsible for all of the stimuli, that there IS in fact an outside force, or intelligence on the other side. I don't feel that he's necessarily stating you wont encounter anything familiar, but that its confirmed for him there is more to it than what the mind discovers within.

Thanks for sharing! What do you guys think about that?
Tonytone is a fictional conglomerate of everyones hopes, dreams, and nightmares. Everything he says is a lie.
 
topherfoster
#22 Posted : 4/23/2014 3:54:39 AM
Good writeup. Your trips sound way more organized than mine.

I rarely get structures or entities. Usually its something bazaar though. Like neon tubes making squares. And every now and then 1 square will flip LOL. Most of my trips are just strange patterns.

As I think about it... I've done a TON of trip recollection lately. And NO DMT since these nightmares I had.

Strangely, I don't recall back on the nightmare trips ever.
I think about this very weird trips I had a few times where everything is COMPLETELY wacky. And it feels like its overloading my brain because its so strange.
And there'd be noise. Like a goofy voice going "whoooOOOOOOAAAAOOooohhh". Everything felt like a slot machine spinning out of control? Does that make sense?

Anyway. I had a couple of those trips and they kind of freaked me out. I just don't know what to make of them. I wonder what they mean. I think about them so much. Can't tell of I like them or not...

Anyway, I like what you said about McKenna.

But I'm off the spice for a while. And DEFINITELY going to use a clean plug more often now.
 
Adjhart
#23 Posted : 4/29/2014 4:29:01 PM
The old plug isn't affecting your trip.

The old plug is affecting your mindset.

Your mindset is affecting your trip.

You mentioned trying to 'fight off' the colors and fear.

Resistance, to me, has always seemed futile.

Let go, surrender, open up.

You'll go straight through those colors.

Our organic brain is not well-equipped for DMT experiences - you should try not to use it.

 
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