Hey guys I am curently doing my first extrcation ever, had a question about one of the teks. In Marsofolds tek he says Quote:Premix in an empty 1-Gallon plastic jug: 1-Pint White Vinegar & 3-1/2 Quarts Water. Put the ground up Mimosa in a 3-Liter crockpot, then fill it with the water-vinegar solution. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off most of the liquid into a 1-gallon wide-mouthed glass or stainless container.
Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. I was wondering what he means by "add the remaining w/v solution again???!?! What remaining w/v solution? The stuff already in the pot? How could I add it again if its already been added? What am I missing here? Also at the end of the tek, discussing freeze precipitation Quote:For example: For a pound of rootbark use 500 milliliters of naptha to extract. Then evaporate it down to 50 milliliters. Then freeze it and filter out the crystals. By the way, you must very quickly filter it within a minute or two after removal from the freezer so it doesn't have any time to warm up. And your freezer can't be marginally cold. If it doesn't freeze ice cream HARD So you "filter" the crystals after removing from freezer?! I thought you pour off the naptha, then fan dry the remaning solvent, then scrape the crystals. And how am I supposed to pour off naptha if it's supposed to freeze "ice cream HARD"??? So much conflicting info I am just a confused as hek noob, thanks for any help from anyone.
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UPDATE: "Lye in my eye" Well just finished adding naptha for my first n00b extraction. Basically din't follow any tech just soft boiled 800 ml h20/50 ml vinegar with about 110 grams of ACRB for 2 hours (in crock pot) seperated liquid pored into jar. Added another fresh 800 ml water/50 ml vinegar boiled 2 more hours in crock pot. Added liquids together and reduced on stove to about 900 ml, when cooled to warm, added 110 grams of lye/50 grams of salt. (heated up to blazing hot!) Let sit for an hour in warm water bath to keep it warm.  * Exciting part*  with awesome noob mistake added 75 ml of naphtha, shook gently in figure 8 motion for a minute, separated in about 5 seconds (didnt shake it hard enough I guess? CYB's salt tek says it takes an hour!!!) SHAKE HARDERR!!!!! don't realize there is a leak in my jar lid, get lye solution in my eye Rinse eye for 15 minutes to prevent blindness. let fluid seperate again.. this time I am waiting to see if any more naptha floats up, but it looks completetly seperated already.... I think I screwed up, probably didn't let it cool enough before basifying (hence why it got blazing hot) So you guys think I'll get anything out of this? The naptha doesn't look like its picked anything up...
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I can't tell you anything on the acid boil TEKs as I don't do them as there to much boiling and other shit ! I just do Cybs salt TEK quick easy and clean !
But with the precipe the naphtha won't freeze only the dmt will freeze allowing you to tip the naphtha strait of the top
And pre evap the naphtha down about 2/3rds of the total volume and it should go milky , and if it does that means it's saturated wich is a good thing!!
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[ added 75 ml of naphtha, shook gently in figure 8 motion for a minute, separated in about 5 seconds (didnt shake it hard enough I guess? CYB's salt tek says it takes an hour!!!)] It takes 1 hour to shake/separate 4 or 5 time, so don't wory about naphta separated fast. But you can shake vigourously, it helps picking the magic. Happy extraction ! « I love the smell of boiling MHRB in the morning »
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Earthwalker wrote:
And pre evap the naphtha down about 2/3rds of the total volume and it should go milky , and if it does that means it's saturated wich is a good thing!!
as in, separate the naphtha, put it into glass dish, and then let it evap off for an hour or so before sticking in the freezer?
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Yes transfer the naphtha to you're precipe dish then allow the naphtha to evap in front of fan till you have 1/3rd naphtha left then cover with cling wrap then freeze for about 18hrs to make sure it's completely dropped all the dmt !
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Earthwalker wrote:Yes transfer the naphtha to you're precipe dish then allow the naphtha to evap in front of fan till you have 1/3rd naphtha left then cover with cling wrap then freeze for about 18hrs to make sure it's completely dropped all the dmt ! thanks! I just had about 50 ml in freezer (left about 25 ml I couldn't get with my baster), took it out and evapping in front of fan now, will get it down to about 15-20 ml and freeze it! Its nice n milky, i'm so excited! I put another 50 ml or so to the jar, how would I go about getting second pulls? Just keep it in the warm water bath n shake four times for 45 minutes again? EDIT: Wow it evapped down very fast in front of a fan, I have about 20 ml now and its in the freezer! Gonna sleep now and have a great morning
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Second pulls are the same. Just add the same amount of solvent. You can and should reuse the naphtha from your freeze precip pulls. But in your case 15 to 20ml isn't enough. Works fine with fresh to though. Good luck A single truth in a world of lies
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If you used enough base, the layers should separate pretty easily. There is no reason to shake it vigorously, and this can cause an emulsion. All you need to do is turn the jar end-over-end, rolling the naphtha around in the aqueous solution. Your second post is a great example of why it is always recommended to wear follow all safety precautions when working with hazardous chemicals, including but not limited to wearing chemical-resistant safety goggles, chemical-resistant gloves, long sleeves and closed-toes shoes. Lye is not something to mess around with, it is an extremely caustic chemical and the safety warning should be taken seriously. Do the second pull, and all subsequent pulls the same way you did the first. It is also worth taking the time to siphon off as much of the naphtha layer as you possibly can, because it will contain the highest concentration of DMT. A glass eyedropper can be implemented once you can't pick up any more with the turkey baster.
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thanks guys... First pull yeilded approx 30 mg of goo/crystals, second pull NOTHING except a very thin sticky layer on the glass pan. unscrapable. 3rd pull looks like I got maybe 10 mg of tiny crystals /goo.
pretty disappointing yeild of <50mg from over 100 grams of bark.Not sure what I did wrong other than pulling with room temperature naphtha/solvent after the first.
Can someone detai the actual pulling method? I did as follows
1. add naptha 2. turn end over end (not shake) for 1 minute. Also did some figue 8's with second pull (which yeiled jack!)
3. Let sit/separarate for 10 mins.
4. Repeat 4x
5. Let sit for an hour to separate
6. pull naphtha with baster into glass pyrex dish, reduce in front of fan to about 20 ml. Cover with plastic wrap tightly and into freezer for 12+ hours.
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Lukem5 wrote:thanks guys... First pull yeilded approx 30 mg of goo/crystals, second pull NOTHING except a very thin sticky layer on the glass pan. unscrapable. 3rd pull looks like I got maybe 10 mg of tiny crystals /goo.
pretty disappointing yeild of <50mg from over 100 grams of bark.Not sure what I did wrong other than pulling with room temperature naphtha/solvent after the first.
Can someone detai the actual pulling method? I did as follows
1. add naptha 2. turn end over end (not shake) for 1 minute. Also did some figue 8's with second pull (which yeiled jack!)
3. Let sit/separarate for 10 mins.
4. Repeat 4x
5. Let sit for an hour to separate
6. pull naphtha with baster into glass pyrex dish, reduce in front of fan to about 20 ml. Cover with plastic wrap tightly and into freezer for 12+ hours. Well I can't say for sure as I have never done the acid boil TEK as I do Cybs salt TEK much cleaner and there's even pics. To show us illiterate how to do it ,, but it is like baking a cake you follow the recipe if not you're not gunna end up with a result ! But I had many fails and in my case it was the bark it just wasn't active ( bunk ) so don't give up , you'll get there !!
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Depending on the naptha and your actual room temperature you will need roughly 200ml to split into 5 or 6 pulls to get everything providing you have lysed properly at the start.Cybs teks are very efficient as they require few vessel transfers and minimalfiltering. Hes also done the maths for you and its clearly laid out in easy to follow steps. Marsfolds isnt really a beginners tek imo.
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