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Cybs salt tek w/ ACRB Options
 
end of flesh
#1 Posted : 3/5/2014 1:15:37 AM
Hi. Im planning on using Cybs salt tek for an acrb extraction. Im gonna start off using just the 50g required. Ive read through the forums and have seen some success using this tek with acrb but not much details regarding if they tweaked the tek any. I believe I read somewhere about a freeze thaw with a different acrb tek, should I do that procedure at the beginning of cybs tek to improve my ending yield? Also my acrb is already finely powdered, will that effect a freeze thaw? If there are any other suggestions or tweaks I should do, please fill me in!
 
AcaciaConfusedYah
Chemical expertSenior Member
#2 Posted : 3/5/2014 1:53:16 AM
Have you seen his MAX ION tek? The max ION is an updated version. It included a defat step that will help reduce the chance of goo. I've done it with ACRB with good results. Do the defat. Also, be patient. Don't rush the process.
Sometimes it's good for a change. Other times it isn't.
 
end of flesh
#3 Posted : 3/5/2014 2:06:36 AM
AcaciaConfusedYah wrote:
Have you seen his MAX ION tek? The max ION is an updated version. It included a defat step that will help reduce the chance of goo. I've done it with ACRB with good results. Do the defat. Also, be patient. Don't rush the process.

Okay. Thank you for the suggestion. By the looks of it, it looks a bit harder to follow. For some of the missing measurements, do I just scale it to the salt tek? For example "add small amount of distilled vinegar to minimal amount filtered water (approx 50ml)." Is this 25ml of each or just 50ml vinegar? If so then what exactly is a "minimal amount of filtered water"?
 
AcaciaConfusedYah
Chemical expertSenior Member
#4 Posted : 3/5/2014 2:15:21 AM
Minimal- I interpret that as about 1 centimeter of water above the bark. Maybe less, maybe more. Once you get the hang of it, you'll see the rules can be bent. Longer times, lesser times, more solvent, less solvent. The main rule is the amount of lye and the amount of bark should be about equal. AND, in the acid phase, you want to be between 2-4. Differing amounts of vinegar may need to be used; I'v always had good results with 50ml.

I usually use 50ml of vinegar.
Sometimes it's good for a change. Other times it isn't.
 
--Shadow
#5 Posted : 3/5/2014 2:28:43 AM
The freeze/thaw method helps with extracting DMT out of the vacuoles.

The vacuole are little pouches inside the cells of the plant that store water and Tryptamines. By freezing the water each time, it expands in the vacuole and helps break the wall
Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
 
end of flesh
#6 Posted : 3/5/2014 2:45:03 AM
Okay awesome. I read through both teks and plan to study them for another 2 weeks or so before I dive in. I think the max ion tek will be the way to go. So from 250g of acrb I can expect a yield of 5-7.5 with this tek correct? Thats insane. Itll go spectacular with a few tabs of 230ug ehrlich tested dali lamas Pleased
 
end of flesh
#7 Posted : 3/5/2014 3:50:43 AM
AcaciaConfusedYah wrote:
Minimal- I interpret that as about 1 centimeter of water above the bark. Maybe less, maybe more. Once you get the hang of it, you'll see the rules can be bent. Longer times, lesser times, more solvent, less solvent. The main rule is the amount of lye and the amount of bark should be about equal. AND, in the acid phase, you want to be between 2-4. Differing amounts of vinegar may need to be used; I'v always had good results with 50ml.

I usually use 50ml of vinegar.

Okay sounds legit. But will I need to purchase a ph meter or ph strips?.
 
Earthwalker
#8 Posted : 3/5/2014 4:01:00 AM
end of flesh wrote:
AcaciaConfusedYah wrote:
Minimal- I interpret that as about 1 centimeter of water above the bark. Maybe less, maybe more. Once you get the hang of it, you'll see the rules can be bent. Longer times, lesser times, more solvent, less solvent. The main rule is the amount of lye and the amount of bark should be about equal. AND, in the acid phase, you want to be between 2-4. Differing amounts of vinegar may need to be used; I'v always had good results with 50ml.

I usually use 50ml of vinegar.

Okay sounds legit. But will I need to purchase a ph meter or ph strips?.


No you can get away with the ph meter (strips) just follow the tech !

And if you're using the salt TEK just follow the measurements as there a little overkill but you will get great results if the

Bark is sound !!

Edit , I'd leave the freeze thaw and the defat till you get the technic down as with 50g it's not really neaded !!
 
end of flesh
#9 Posted : 3/5/2014 4:07:54 AM
I was planning to go with the max ion tek. The instructions arent as detailed as the salt tek. Cyb recommended a ph meter if possible. I just didnt know if I should obtain a digital ph meter or if strips work equally well. I mean I thought lye would deteriorate both if dipped in the solution?
 
hopefull
#10 Posted : 3/5/2014 4:27:58 AM
end of flesh wrote:
So from 250g of acrb I can expect a yield of 5-7.5 with this tek


Don't expect that yield. Hope for that yield. First ACRB extraction I did I yielded around 25 mg from 200gs of bark. second time I yielded about a gram. Took me more than 2 times to perfect the art of ACRB extraction. Not as easy as a mimosa stb tek. Good luck tho. Hopefully you do get 5-7.5 gs of spice.
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cyb
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#11 Posted : 3/5/2014 6:08:39 AM
Just do a 50g batch until you know what you are doing.
If you use the Max Ion...Refer to the other tek for the pictorial.
Please do not PM tek related questions
Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
 
end of flesh
#12 Posted : 3/5/2014 6:29:20 AM
cyb wrote:
Just do a 50g batch until you know what you are doing.
If you use the Max Ion...Refer to the other tek for the pictorial.

Ahhh the mastermind has spoken! Thank you for taking a look at the posts and the suggestion. Will do!
 
 
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