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Possible Acacia maidenii !! Please help ! Options
 
Earthwalker
#1 Posted : 1/7/2014 8:07:33 AM
Hi would anyone be able to tell me if this is an acacia maidenii , it was found on the central coast nsw the plant is about 2 + m tall and fairly round aswell and these photos were taken today being the 7/ 1 / 2014 !!! I think that's all , thanx


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acacian
#2 Posted : 1/7/2014 8:16:09 AM
hmmm i'd say you have acacia sophorae x longifolia there.. phyllodes too straight and leathery for maidenii and wrong shape (maidenii's are softer and more falcate)

 
Earthwalker
#3 Posted : 1/7/2014 8:30:43 AM
acacian wrote:
hmmm i'd say you have acacia sophorae x longifolia there.. phyllodes too straight and leathery for maidenii and wrong shape (maidenii's are softer and more falcate)

Sad lol I got all excited for a few mins thanx nex !! Smile
 
acacian
#4 Posted : 1/7/2014 9:15:53 AM
no worries Smile sorry to dissapoint... I guess even if it was maidenii you'd need the right strain for the molecule I assume you seek.. theres a lot of different 'types'
 
Earthwalker
#5 Posted : 1/8/2014 12:10:26 AM
acacian wrote:
no worries Smile sorry to dissapoint... I guess even if it was maidenii you'd need the right strain for the molecule I assume you seek.. theres a lot of different 'types'

Nem888 , I just read the (dmt in aus ) thread now I'm in a way more torn between acacia's , obtusifolia , fluribunda , maidenii , or Acacia acuminata , could you please surgest a piticular genus or strain for swim to be on the lookout for !! On the central coast of nsw ! Big grin
 
nen888
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#6 Posted : 1/8/2014 7:23:46 AM
^hi Earthwalker..they are all good species....all great to grow...but there are some good strains of A. longifolia/sophorae (for your presumed interest) in your area Smile
 
Earthwalker
#7 Posted : 1/8/2014 11:58:07 PM
nen888 wrote:
^hi Earthwalker..they are all good species....all great to grow...but there are some good strains of A. longifolia/sophorae (for your presumed interest) in your area Smile

Acacian and Nem888 thank you for you're help , you never cease to amaze me with you're wealth of information , thanks again Thumbs up
 
Earthwalker
#8 Posted : 1/9/2014 12:08:02 AM
acacian wrote:
no worries Smile sorry to dissapoint... I guess even if it was maidenii you'd need the right strain for the molecule I assume you seek.. theres a lot of different 'types'

Lol sorry I got you confused with nem888 there lol , sorry Embarrased
 
--Shadow
#9 Posted : 1/9/2014 7:15:00 AM
Hehe, and I think u got nem888 confused with nen888 Razz
Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
 
Earthwalker
#10 Posted : 1/9/2014 7:20:34 AM
--Shadow wrote:
Hehe, and I think u got nem888 confused with nen888 Razz

Laughing I no , o'well I'll take eithers advice !! Big grin
 
Earthwalker
#11 Posted : 1/9/2014 8:32:50 AM
nen888 wrote:
^hi Earthwalker..they are all good species....all great to grow...but there are some good strains of A. longifolia/sophorae (for your presumed interest) in your area Smile

Umm I'm a little lost , I just researched the acacia thread and 2 question's I'm pondering but can't find the answer to is histamine toxic ??? And if the subtype longifolia sophorae is of the Tryptamine verity will it contain any histamine at all ?? As I've read as followed
A. longifolia, genetically, either contains mainly tryptamines or mainly histamines..
there are 2 or more sub-types of A. longifolia, [plus sub-species 'sophorae', once a seperate species and itself variable]..

..of true longifolia, two major features seem to indicate the more likely presence of tryptamines:
1) phyllode shape & texture - slightly broader/shorter with shiny dark green is histamine sub-type, plant tends to be more prostrate;
- longer/narrower with paler green, more leathery texture is tryptamine sub-type.
2) flowers - longer, larger, denser, brighter yellow; certain aroma, is histamine type;
- slightly shorter, sparser, less bright yellow is tryptamine type.
..there appears to be a third (not common) form of longifolia which is higher in tryptamines than most..

NB. the toxicity of the histamines is not well known but is probably not acute..they have been bio-assayed at 20-30mg without serious adverse effects; the kind of activity is not understood well either..Histamine is an endogenous neurotransmitter or hormone, and vasodilator ..
Thanx
 
--Shadow
#12 Posted : 1/9/2014 9:19:45 AM
You would specifically be after A. Longifolia var Sophorae , found on the sand dunes.

Although histamine is produced by the body in response to things such as allergies (therefore causing inflammation - which we take anti-histamines to stop this), it's soluble in water, so it shouldn't make it across your pulls anyway.

Not sure you could vaporise it anyways, it's usually extracted in liquid form
Throughout recorded time and long before, trees have stood as sentinels, wise yet silent, patiently accumulating their rings while the storms of history have raged around them --The living wisdom of trees, Fred Hageneder
 
 
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