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purepositiveenergy
#1 Posted : 12/31/2013 1:23:13 PM
Hi guys,

Is it ok to just stir it with a stainless steel spoon for step two and three?

Step Two
WEAR GLASSES. Add 500ml water to one of the large glass jars. Then slowly and carefully add 250g sodium hydroxide to it. Make sure this all gets absorbed into the water. Then after the lye water solution has cooled down, pour this into your gallon milk jug that has the vinegar and root bark in it. Then add around 1.75 liters of water to the jug to top it off(you want enough room at the top for 100ml of d-limonene). Now mix this together very well.

Step Three
Add 100ml of d-limonene to the gallon jug (or big glass jar) and mix it together. Don't shake it, just mix it end over end gently. Be careful to keep the cap on the jug. The first 2 pulls can be done in about 1-2 hours. After about an hour of mixing then separating and mixing and separating, pull as much of the d-limonene off the top as you can and put it into the other big glass jar. Do this again with another 100ml of d-limonene, mixing for an hour then pulling. The next three 100ml pulls will need to sit for a while longer to make sure you get all the dmt. Do at least one pull a day for three days. Mixing as often as you think about it. Add each pull to the dmt d-limonene jar.

It is not in the BLAB but I've read that you can do a sodium carbonate wash to remove any lye from the limonene, how important is this? What can happen if I leave too much lye? I assume that I'm not too accurate with pipetting off the limonene so there will probably be a fair bit of lye. Also, you should always do a water wash quick, how quick in minutes and is it the same for the sodium carbonate wash and the destilled water wash?

I just want to make sure I am doing it right.

Thanks a lot.

Kind regards,
PPEEmbarrased

 
DreaMTripper
#2 Posted : 12/31/2013 1:46:34 PM
You will have to salt out the dmt from the limonene so it doesnt matter as it wont be taken with the alkaloids.
 
endlessness
#3 Posted : 1/1/2014 12:51:40 AM
Staiunless steel is ok

As for sodium carbonate wash being important or not, depends how clean you were with your separation, and how much you want your product to be pure. Any basified mix coming over to your limonene in a bad separation will end up in your final product. The fact you salt it out means any lye will be neutralized, but you will have excess salt impurities (for example sodium acetate if you used vinegar to salt) and other plant impurities if separation wasnt well done.

So yeah I recommend doing one single small wash, which should be enough to clean your solvent, will be easy and fast enough and should not lose any yield.. As for speed, dont worry about it, just put a bit of sodium carb water, shake, separate them as soon as the layers separated, and youre good. DMT should not migrate significantly to the sodium carbonate water even if you took longer.

No need to do a pure water wash, its safer to do a sodium carb wash, since your pure water may, depending on its pH, dissolve a small amount of DMT, but sodium carb water most definitely wont.
 
purepositiveenergy
#4 Posted : 1/1/2014 7:54:17 PM
Thank you very much Endlessness, you've answered all my questions.

I thought that I had read to do a destilled water wash to get rid of any excess sodium carbonate. I suppose it's better to have a bit of sodium carbonate in there than to lose any spice.

How much sodium carbonate saturated water would you suggest for 500 ml of d-limonene? I am a virgo and like to do it as best as I can Big grin

I am very grateful for your help, thank you.

Kind regards,
PPE
 
endlessness
#5 Posted : 1/1/2014 9:52:58 PM
it doesnt have to be sodium carb saturated water, just add a pinch of sodium carb to water, should be enough.

For 500ml limonene you could use 50-100ml sodium carb water.
 
 
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