took two heaping tablespoon fulls on a relatively empty stomach. just spent the last hour or so wretching my guts out. not enjoyable. those of you who have had an interest in "WAKA" grade kava....EASE INTO IT!!! this stuff is STRONG!!

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!

The first few times I tried Kava I was highly disappointed and tried larger and larger doses. It didn’t do much at all. Eventually I overdid it and vomited it all out and was still very disappointed in its effects.

OOOOOO sign SWIM up for that!!! hes gonna order pounds of that stuff...boy does he loooove wretching

ughhh i hate puking i avoid it at all costs... i have gotten very good at keep things in my stomach (thanks tussin ) to the point where i cant even puke when i want to when i have those "oh shit i think i took too much" moments...

haha...SWIM has gotten very good at getting stuff out if his body says YO...he also gags every time he takes something orally...no matter what it is..even if its bee pollen...he gags...it takes some effort even taking 60mg mescaline acetate capsule! he has put his body through so much bs..that its just waiting for an excuse to purge...he could probably go puke right now if he wanted to...

all it takes is a little tickling the back of your throat with your pointer finger..and BAM!

VOMIT

and then he feels better...its amazing how wonderfully smart the body is...granted he doesnt LIKE puking..but he always feels better afterwards...he thinks its a great talent to have...

i dunno my body like fights it
iv been deep deep far to deep in a oral dmt dose and i couldnt puke to save my soul as messed up as i was something was clinging to "dont puke you dont want to puke" as i was leanin over the toilet telling myself i had to try to get any excess out... then spent a few hours laying on the cool floor (or slipping through rather) then i was cool...

i suppose it is a good talent to have for these circumstances but i cant bring myself to it even when i need to

when SWIM took theobromine and too much pharma his brother told him that he ended up puking for about 30 minutes..because he would chug water..and the puke it out..and kept doing it over and over and over again...if his brother wasnt there keeping an eye on him..he may have just kept puking...because it felt like only a few minutes had gone by...he hadnt realized he had puked over 60 times...but it felt soooo good once his brother told him..."hey fella dont you think thats enough?" and SWIM was like..."WHAT!?!? i need to get this shit out!" and his brother was like.."dude, youve been puking for half an hour...i think you got it" and SWIM was like "oh....hahahahahaha!" and then he forgot who he was..and curled up on his bed trying to figure out what this breathing bullshit was all about

hahaha yes i know what you mean.... "you guys i just stopped breathing it was kinda bad for a minute but i figured it out again and started breathing"..."um no you were breathing fine"

whew! well....i'm back!! that was GOD AWEFUL!! it wasn't that the kava was bunk or anything...on the contrary! i took two heaping tablespoons in water and within 5 minutes i knew i was good n' fucked...i immediately went to the toilet and tickled my tonsils in an attempt to get as much excess out as i could.....got up what seemed to be a fair amount but that shit is STRONG! it was like having drank waaaay too much waaaay too fast. room spinning...stumbling...disoriented...horribly nauseous..

then came the "grand exodus" which lasted for a good 3 hours....VIOLENT hurling. my abs are sore this morning (that's ONE way to get your core-work in )

i think SWIM came back from the great white north a little more sensative than he went up there being...either that or he will NEVER take kava on an empty stomach like that again!!

YOWLZA!

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

....and how much do you love that of all things SWIM could have done to soothe my miserable ass, i chose to tap out (in between wretches) a little note to his nexus family to warn them not to do what he just did....?

man...it would be sweet to organize a big "NEXUS FAMILY HOLIDAY" retreat and all journey out to, say, Kauai or something. it would be fucking awesome to meet all of SWIM's friends in the flesh. and even better- to share medicines with you all.

...SWIM is a people person as it turns out....

...and a dreamer


L&G

Psychosisdoses- I've seen videos of the natives making themselves puke up aya. Some of them use long thin sticks to poke the back of their throat with.

Ron- yeah SWIM was disappointed with kava too. It was alright, but nothing special at all... a slight feeling of inebriation, though mental clarity, and tingly hairs on his balls... not really worth having to sit there swilling earthwater in your mouth.

I hate too much kava..it makes me feel very sick. I also use Waka grade kava, whatever that means. But I agree, it could be stronger. Two of my friends tried it with me and both didn notice anything.

yeah i never got much eaither...tied a few times witd fresh vanuatu(sp). two tablespoons down the hatch, intense stomache pains lol.

psh well they can enjoy themselves.... i dont mind not puking iv gotten used to it a long time ago

My first time i tryed that powder crap that you mix with water for a drink, i think it said there was two doses or something.. anyway i puked too & never tryed it again untill a year later..

I think the extract pills are better, they are made by GAIA HERBS

I always feel them & i only take about 4 small capsules, its $20 for a month supply, but lasted me about two weeks =D

I think the powder drink isnt as fresh, i mean these pills are actually kinda liquidy looking, like a goop. not some dried out old powder.


I love the purge acid gives me everytime i eat before taking it, or take other supplements.. its like telling me that acid is everything & that you dont need anything extra.

SWIM recently made a first test with 1 g kava powder. He made a tea and filtered it in a coffe filter. (a gram is around two tablespoon). Effects were a bit stronger than expected for such low dose (but still very manageable) however SWIM was suprised about the duration of the effects that last few hours (while kratom last one to one and a half hour).
SWIM though to test 2 g next time but after your feedback, I guess he will test 1.5 first...

For what I know, a tea (with water) only partialy extract the kavalactones, but SWIM felt that it is ok that way.

This should in plant discussion.

Wow, you must have taken alot.

I enjoy the strong kava every once in a while myself. I've never hurled on it, but always titrated my drinks...sipping slowly.

Most kava on the market is garbage, pure garbage. Little to no effects at all. And forget kava pills I only found one brand that actually worked and they no longer make them.

1 teaspoon makes a nice treat, 2 makes for a pleasant evening, 4 makes me a little kava drunk, and that's where I stop.

yeah...i took two heaping tablespoons full and chugged them down into an empty stomach....i personally find the taste of kava pretty much the most foul thing imaginable...even the thought of it makes me nauseated (even before my horrible incident)..

i took too much too quick and that's that....let it serve to save anyone who has read this thread from a similar barf-ridden fate...

and on a side-yet-similar-note: acolon_5 - do you (or anyone) know anything about basic cold water extraction of something like kava? i've got a friend with one of those Kangen machines who can give me as much ph11.5 water as i need.....i was told by someone that water that basic can extract active alkaloids out of plant matter left soaking in it for a couple days....i was thinking about trying this to help me get this wonderful (albeit disgusting) medicine down.

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!