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afukara
#1 Posted : 10/10/2013 1:25:16 AM
Hey, i tried ayahuasca three times in the last week. And i have some questions. Two of my experiences ended up with a vomit. But even the successful one wasn't a breakthrough. I've seen some weird cave entrances, but they were like shadows, they weren't clear. And most importantly i've contacted with entities at a sentimental level. I didn't see them, i didn't hear them literally. But there were some voices in my head, they were like thoughts. But at some point i understood that they weren't exactly my thoughts. They were simply guiding me over the problems about my life. And all of my sessions ended up in the bed.
I'm not ungrateful. Because of that session, i became a better person and felt that i'm alive and well. But I'm simply wondering about a successful breakthrough. I'm using Mimosa and Syrian Rue; taking 3 gr of Rue with capsules, brewing 5 gr of Mimosa with water and vinegar 3 times in a row. Then I'm mixing it with some honey.
What should I do to experience a breakthrough?
 
adam
#2 Posted : 10/10/2013 1:49:36 AM
How long are you brewing for? Also sometimes you may simply not get visions. Increasing the dosage can fix this if thats what your after.

I have experienced the voices in the head. I often feel that the plant intelligence uses you memories and shows them to you in way that can be very healing, so its not an alien language but your own voice speaking to you with something elses thoughts. Can be strange at first.

Sometimes I wont get any visions even when smoking dmt but still have some insights that become relevant when I do breakthrough.

Trust the process and maybe increase the dosage if you feel comfortable doing so.
 
afukara
#3 Posted : 10/10/2013 1:58:47 AM
I'm brewing for 4 hours at total.
Actually after experiencing the insights -they were beyond any healing- i really don't care about the visions that much.
But if this session makes me this good without a breakthrough; next level should be amazing and i want to experience it.
So, i'm going with 7-8 gr then?
 
adam
#4 Posted : 10/10/2013 2:14:07 AM
Thats what I would do personally if you feel comfortable with the dose you are at.

Be careful though sometimes a small increase in dose can cross a threshold that may change things dramatically.

Be safe.
 
afukara
#5 Posted : 10/10/2013 2:22:43 AM
Thanks for the answer and the warning.

Be safe too.
 
jamie
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#6 Posted : 10/10/2013 2:41:44 AM
are you really sure you want a breakthrough?

I am just asking, because I often think that people talk about "breaking" through with ayahuasca and they really have no idea what that level is like. This is more a warning than anything else..I know what it is like to think about and yearn for that experience..but when you really get slammed like that there is nothing..NOTHING that is gunna save your ass. Your in for it and this world goes bye bye, for what feels like forever..it is like dying. Are you ready to die? If so than shoot for breakthrough/death. Of course you will resurrect...ayahuasca is not physically toxic Smile but that doesn't really help me much when I am dying during an ayahuasca breakthrough. The spirits, the place..it's REAL. At least have someone watch over your body if you try to have an oral breakthrough cus you wont be able to walk around to the bathroom, get water etc..if you can you are probly just heavily tripping but it's not a breakthrough IME.

I would settle for just a few decent visionary journey before you worry about trying to fully break through into the other worlds. It sounds like what you are getting now is just barely a visual level..and there is a lot to experience and do inbetween there and full on breakthrough where you leave this reality entirely.

You must have a high tolerance as well..because 3g of rue and 5g mimosa should be strong for most people.
Long live the unwoke.
 
afukara
#7 Posted : 10/10/2013 2:46:22 PM
Jamie, thanks for advices. I was reading Terence McKenna and gathering information about an idea called "Oneness of the Being", so i'm thinking there isn't any idea in this world to be absolutely real and true. Only true and real ones are hidden beyond the veil. And i'm aware that however i think i'm ready to die; when that happens, that won't seem like anything i think. And beyond all of my concerns, i'm willing to surrender to death and live with it afterwards.
But you wrote that "...and there is a lot to experience and do inbetween there and full on breakthrough where you leave this reality entirely..." and that made me curious. I guess i want every insight and every experience these plants have to offer. So thanks to you, i decided to take it slow and digest every little bit of wisdom from Aya while in this path.
 
 
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