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tizoc4u
#1 Posted : 8/12/2013 10:15:14 PM
Has anyone has any personal experiences with peruvian cactur other than predominant cultivar pachanoi. Im trying to connect the fact that lots of peoples experiences witth the bolivian cactus in contrast to the pachanoi has really stained the value its True mescaline value, when I hear people refer the brdge as being so much stronger than pachanoi, but this cannot be the same as with real pachanoi, or a true cultivar of pachanoi or peruvianus. Im sure thease all r about the same in power or potenc3 when it comes with magic. But it also happens that these two cactus have been mistaken to be 2 completely different clones and has stained its true potential for being a strong mescaline medicinal plant.
 
endlessness
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#2 Posted : 8/12/2013 10:23:39 PM
Did you check trout's recently internet-released notes on cactus-containing mescaline? Might have some info of interest for you....

http://www.largelyaccura...mationmedia.com/C10.html
and
http://www.largelyaccura...onmedia.com/SanPedro.pdf
 
nicechrisman
#3 Posted : 8/13/2013 12:31:58 AM
I have some pachanoi that compare favorably to bridgesii. I find the experience to be a bit different. Bridgesii felt more stimulating and recreational and the pachanoi felt more sedating and spiritual.
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jamie
Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing
#4 Posted : 8/13/2013 12:39:05 AM
Wait..so pachanoi and peruvianus are not 2 different species? Are they both types of pachanoi? Cacti is so freaking confusing. All I know is that I have a mature peruvianus, and I have 45 bridgessi seedlings. I had more but my cat destroyed them.

Should I focus on what is labled pachanoi then? Bridgessi is a less spiritual experience?

I have only ingested what was labled as peruvianus dry chips and it was way stronger than people say it should be. I never ate more than 15g dry because that was pretty solid for me. I can even feel a light glow when I eat like 2g of the dry skin. I hope my peruvianus I grow now is that potent.

Is bridgessi really variable? I grew the bridge from seed so I don't know what the potency should be like.
Long live the unwoke.
 
pau
#5 Posted : 8/13/2013 2:56:10 AM
had some very nice T. macrogonus. That said, I would not be surprised if Macrogonus, Pachanoi and Peruvianus are all variations on the same theme.
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dg
Cacti expert
#6 Posted : 8/13/2013 5:00:45 AM
jamie-
every bridge i've tried has been potent. some are really great

there are good plants that are labeled as pachs-peruvianus-bridge

grow them all. they all have merit
 
kiang
#7 Posted : 8/13/2013 10:02:10 AM
what dg said, just grow them all and then some more.

Even the same cactus may vary depending grow season, time of year and physical "trauma" can influence too the production of alkaloids.

I grow them all, also some cereus can have hordenine in them (per Trout´s notes). Cacti are one of the only teacher plants that grow outdoors in my region. I love them Thumbs up


 
tizoc4u
#8 Posted : 8/13/2013 11:02:20 PM
I worded it that way because us predominant cultivar has not been found growing wild. So I called it peruvian pachanoi so it wont be confused as the pc. Wich is e pachanoi or t pachanoi. Cuzcoensis was sold in the us as t peruvianis sorry for the confusion
 
 
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