Evening Glory wrote:I will try this receipe sometime soon, as I now am familiar with both the effects of nutmeg alone and turmeric combined with black pepper. That looks to me like the main active principle in this recipe. I can test with nutmeg combined with turmeric and black pepper too, to see if the other ingredients really make a definitive difference.
The black pepper and turmeric is going to add to the marijuana like feel some people attribute to nutmeg, I think, because on their own black pepper and turmeric produce an effect that's sort of like a very mild marijuana high, not the same but similar.
Evening Glory wrote:69ron, in what quantities is myristicin found in black pepper? I doubt it can be much more than trace amounts?
I can't find any good source with numbers to back up that claim. I see mention of it on Erowid and many other places, but none give any numbers on the actual quantity present.
Here's a few sources stating that it's present:
Quote:Myristicin is a naturally occurring benzodioxole compound found in anise, Star anise, black pepper, carrot, common fennel, mace, nutmeg, sweet fennel, many natural oils, and flavoring agents (Jeong & Yun, 1995; Matthews, 1994).
Quote:Myristicin, 1-allyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-5-methoxybenzene, is an active constituent of nutmeg, parsley, carrot, and black pepper (Salzer, 1977)
Quote:Capsaicin, a chemical found in cayenne pepper, is also a mild inhibitor of cytochorome P450 2E1, which is a mixed-function oxidase involved in metabolism that mediates some drug interactions. It could be that one or both of these peppers is the reason why lower doses of nutmeg seem to have stronger effects when taken via this preparation. Black pepper also contains high levels of myristicin. (Page 21 of Vernal Equinox 2008 Entheogen Review "Myristica Fragrans, An Exploration of the Narcotic Spice"
SWIM doesn't have all the ingredients for testing this out yet. But at some point he will try the authentic recipe.
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