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other dmt salts that are crystalline aside from fumarate. Options
 
proto-pax
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#1 Posted : 11/9/2011 4:14:46 PM
I'm just curious if anyone knows of any dmt salts that are crystals besides fumarate.
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endlessness
#2 Posted : 11/9/2011 5:39:21 PM
Picrate - mp 166-168" (Yellow picrate from ethanol) Ghosal &
Banerjee 1969

Oxalate - Colorless needles from methanol mp147
Morimoto & Matsumoto 1966

Hydrobromide - mp 114.5" Transparent light yellow prisms (orthorhombic)
(From methanol-ether) Falkenberg 1972 (Unstable in
solution)


Please dont play around with dangerous acids Pleased

 
proto-pax
Senior Member
#3 Posted : 11/10/2011 4:38:26 AM
Picric acid? No thanks, I'm good without exploding crystals. thanks for the info end.
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Red Eclipse
#4 Posted : 11/10/2011 7:32:04 AM
I'm wondering if an acetate would crystallize, if you use pure glacial acetic acid. I'm sure you remember the 'goo factor' threads, though I can't remember if anyone applied this to spice.
 
Explorateur
#5 Posted : 11/6/2012 7:06:16 PM
Fumaric acid isn't that common where I live.
Oxalic acid dihydrate is quite common in crystal form and available in hardware store.

I didn't find so much information on DMT oxalate (solubility...).
Do you think it could be possible to produce DMT oxalate in the same as the FASA method ?
 
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#6 Posted : 11/7/2012 9:31:13 PM
Might not want to ingest the oxalate salts...
 
lysurgeon
#7 Posted : 11/10/2012 8:19:36 AM
Don't have any mp or other data but a citrate salt has mostly solid properties. If ph is taken into consideration or stoichiometry is super accurate you will have crystals however they will be hygroscopic if ph is 6 or lower. Turns into an orange solid that appears to have been flowing but you never see it being liquidy.
 
Mindlusion
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#8 Posted : 12/1/2012 2:52:58 AM
citrates will cause you trouble if you want to store it for any amount of time, avoid oxalic, you dont want to get any kidney stones

But what about tartaric acid?
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InMotion
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#9 Posted : 1/23/2013 8:31:02 PM
Tartarates are goopy not solid nor crystalline.
Citrates are goopy as well.

Perhaps Maleates would be worth looking in too.
 
The Traveler
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#10 Posted : 1/23/2013 9:06:23 PM
Whats about phosphoric acid?

And malic acid?


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