Hello,

Thought I'd put this here - my experiences with cooking cannabis butter with vegan ingredients. I hope many of you can appreciate the inherent cruelty involved in the dairy industry. And if you're trying to have a good time and enjoy your trip, there is no need for sentient beings to suffer for it.

Making Cannabis butter doesn't work with margarine.... here's a cruelty free list of things that WILL work.

Coconut Oil, is my far the most effective.
Avocado Oil Spread, Macadamia Oil Spread (need to be solid blocks, not, cooking oil varieties)
If you're in a pinch, earth balance and nuttelex will work. Although nuttelex contains palm oil, think of the orangutans!

All of these ingredients, I've used, and seen solidify completely after cooking (with the exception of earth balance, which isn't sold in my country).

Other than this, the method is the same. You just need to be careful with heat, since these varieties of fat have a lower melting point than regular butter, making them more susceptible to catching. I strongly urge you to try the coconut oil / butter. It is so luscious and beautiful.

<3 Pia

Thanks for the suggestions. My friend uses Olive oil. Never heard about Coconut oil until recently, but from what I understand the cannabis really likes the fats in this oil. I've heard to use a crock pot on low setting for a day or two. Any suggested teks for getting the goodies into the oil and in what aprrox measurements?

cannabinoids are soluble in many lipophilic compounds, which makes me doubt that they would not be soluble in margarine. I find that very hard to believe.

Well, I've cooked countless batches of butter from plants I've grown from seed outdoors and lovingly cared for, and can personally say that in my experience margarine can be a hit and miss exercise and usually there is a lot of wasteage. Also, often there can be issues with getting the margarine to solidify. You can often end up with a sludgy mixture that is not awesome to cook with and compromises the texture of the end product. The issue is that some margarines will work, others don't seem to, I don't know exactly why - it has been suggested that it may be that most margarines are 'fat reduced' these days, and the way they're processed. I've even had one margarine turn 'grainy'. But by all means, use margarine if you want to... I just think that the other options mentioned there work better.

I've never bothered with measurements because it's been the kiffer we've used so it doesn't go to waste. But you can make it as strong or as weak as you like. I've not tried a crock pot (awesome idea!) but I just cook it down on low on the stove for an hour, pass it through a colander, return to the heat for another couple of minutes, then pass through cheesecloth. Lasts in the freezer for longer than it ever takes to use it up. Lots of people add water, I never have, and I have no idea why one would. But, apparently you can add water.

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oh ok, this makes sense. it's an issue with saturation.
unsaturated fats do not solidify well with other unsaturated fats.
they tend to coagulate

No mention of hemp seed oil?

Thats like the original gangsta as far as oil based cannabis spreads/vegan cannabutter. Granted, not a viable single option, but added with a more viscous or solid lipid like coconut oil, or peanut/almond butter, definately deserves a mention.

Or hell, take your cannabis oil/hemp oil mixture, and mix/blend enough hemp seed to make a paste. Granted its not butter, but its all cannabis derived ingredients, which is pretty neat. And hemp seeds are damn tasty raw or toasted imho.

Its like nature designed it that way (though thats human idealism ignoring how evolutinon actually works, its still fun to think about).

I've been thinking about trying something different with edibles, I'm now going to give coconut oil a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!

I had some delicious vegan pot cookies at a festival over the summer. I don't know what the person used but it was likely something you mentioned. I might have to make some cookies sometime soon....

...and if your trying to sound condescending, you did it!
Some people live in the country and actually know the cows and goats from which their milk comes from. (Their life isn't that bad, they get protected from predators, and get food brought to them)

On another note, we always used Olive oil, never a problem with that, a nice way to preserve leaf and trimmings.

"I hope many of you can appreciate the inherent cruelty involved in the dairy industry"

That depends..factory farming sure. I dont see how the raw grass fed cheese I get from a local farmer who does not milk the cows like crazy and lets them roam freeerange all day is as cruel as forcing a bunch of plants to grow in monocultured fields sprayed with pesticides all day. Everything is relative. Veganism as this ultimate ethical diet is a fallacy. I did it for couple years and understand it but it's not really the answer IMO.

Coconut oil.

Olive oil worked well for me. I froze a small tub of it once and it seemed to store okay as well.

yeah, for storage of oil, I'd wager it's best to start with dry plant matter.