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mew
#1 Posted : 7/11/2012 8:33:39 PM
The idea here is to use somthing like acetone, or ipa, maybe even mek.

saturate the solvent with alkaloids by extracting full spectrum from powder using soaks

the next is to filter and decant to ensure a pure solution

then saturate the solvent with an acid that dissolves BUT the mescaline salt is insoluable


to aid this process freeze precipitation may be used as would using a warm solvent to extract


does anyone know of the necessary salts and solvents to use?
 
endlessness
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#2 Posted : 7/11/2012 8:40:39 PM
Mescaline and limonene + FASI or mescaline and xylene + FASA ?
 
mew
#3 Posted : 7/11/2012 8:57:02 PM
has there been a great success with fasi?
 
endlessness
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#4 Posted : 7/11/2012 9:10:35 PM
 
mew
#5 Posted : 7/12/2012 5:46:11 AM
apparently ive been underappreciating this method, this will be the ticket!


 
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#6 Posted : 7/12/2012 5:58:02 AM
xylene and dilute sulfuric acid.

"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
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mew
#7 Posted : 7/12/2012 11:50:00 PM
what are your thoughts on fasipa from limo benzyme?

the equipment used will be kitchen/house hold grade without any chance of ordering necessary glass pipettes that xylene would require (if not of course a sep funnel)

i have jars, jugs (hdpe 2), glass turkey baster, plastic pippetes, limo, fumaric, ipa, mgo4, acetone.

 
endlessness
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#8 Posted : 7/12/2012 11:51:21 PM
lol dont ask benz about limonene, he's gonna have a seizure Very happy

Benz is allergic to hippie stuff like limonene Laughing
 
mew
#9 Posted : 7/13/2012 12:09:18 AM
xylene is no longer in question of being used, it is totally unappealing odor/safety wise

the idea is not to salt with water, its to precipitate with fasipa or fasa. information on fasipa or fasa is desired. please post if you have had success with either, in limo/xylene


thank you
 
endlessness
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#10 Posted : 7/13/2012 12:19:31 AM
I havent tried FASI/FASA with mescaline, only with DMT, but as I linked you earlier, other people have and it seems to work just fine. The principle is the same. What is it that you're wondering about, specifically?
 
mew
#11 Posted : 7/13/2012 3:35:44 AM
on another note

whats your preferred method of spice retrieval , using limo
 
endlessness
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#12 Posted : 7/13/2012 8:59:00 AM
FASI
 
mew
#13 Posted : 7/14/2012 8:07:53 AM
and your preference on how to saturate the nps with spice?
 
endlessness
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#14 Posted : 7/14/2012 11:14:32 AM
Not sure what you mean. I usually work with A/B if thats what you mean.
 
mew
#15 Posted : 7/15/2012 2:07:07 AM
your a/b. would you mind explaining how you perform yours. i like gathering information from reputable sources, seeing as you are one, i would greatly appreciate gleaning some insight tek wise.

a few subjects about the process that i would like to get your perspective on are:
-acid cooks (time?x#, type of acid/concentration, amount of water to mhrb)
vs
-acid soak (blab style)
-filter/decanting
-amount of nps used per pull (comparitively to mhrb solution)
-filter/decanting
-cold vs hot saltings


thank you
 
endlessness
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#16 Posted : 7/15/2012 10:07:43 AM
Well we're going quite offtopic here specially because this is a cacti thread and youre asking me about mimosa but...

I dont usually measure or time anything, I do an A/B, 3 main boils (or 4 with the last one being with small amount of water and longer soak before boiling, to make sure I "got it all"Pleased, usually first boil is quicker than the last. So if it's powdered mimosa, maybe first boil is half an hour, second an hour, third two hours.

In each boil I throw some vinegar, no idea amounts but just splash a bit. After the third boil I filter everything through funnel and cotton plug and reduce to manageable amount. FASI is done at room temperature.

Instead of relying on my method, do your own, do side-by-side tests comparing different variables you are curious about, and let us know the results. This way you'll know for a fact whats better, and we can also learn from your experiments Smile
 
mew
#17 Posted : 7/15/2012 11:09:28 PM
im glad you have shared. the more i hear about individual approaches the more i fine tune my own technique.
i do the same process with the acid cooks btw.


yea it is quite off topic

thanks anyway Smile
 
 
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