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SWIM's cat has done about an ounce of MHRB brewed w/out any MAOI, and had only threshold effects, but then learned that juerma is traditionally prepared as a cold water infusion. The cat has not yet tried it this way, and is reluctant to waste more bark. Hopefully someone else has.....
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After reading Ott's report a friend tried it out. The experience was definately above threshold....came in waves...lasted for several hours. It did include a purge. It reminded my friend of a light aya experience. My friend drank a cold water extraction using a little over an ounce of bark powder.
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that's crazy to achieve those effects with 28 g of unprocessed bark w/o an maoi. swim will stick to the spice for now but will try a cold infusion once he has more bark....
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