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Bezerker
#41 Posted : 3/30/2012 11:16:33 PM
Thats feakin cool. And thats freebase? The crystals look similar (excspt white) from what forms during the mankse extraction on rue. Nice little needles.



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NamRa
#42 Posted : 3/30/2012 11:35:52 PM
Yes it stays white after drying but not exactly where I would like to have it.
THe glass fell of the table. Sad
I was not paying enough attention while working with other things.
It really seems its white Very happy

Yes it freebase, on the base of my floor.

Maybe some running projekts could give same results, lets see.
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#43 Posted : 3/30/2012 11:46:15 PM
that sucks man :evil:
 
Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish
#44 Posted : 3/31/2012 2:00:45 AM
Your solution is remarkably clear. How many acid to base conversions did it take to get that?
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NamRa
#45 Posted : 4/1/2012 9:17:58 AM
the rue alks used in the picture are from a extraction i did several years ago.
I followed a tek using salt and ?.

I have no idea how many conversions I did.
I do know I seperated the harmine from harmaline. Not shure if my labeling was right anyway the alks where quite light colered towrads grey.

Right now I am working with a full spectrum from rue have been doing conversions and filtering and finally slow steps (drops) freebasing.
For some reason I cant get the same results.

In the pic where the crystals form every drop seemed to make crystals and they was very floaty. When basing now the drops of base disseprear till certain PH level is reached and fb just drop at the bottum of the glass. Still I am getting cleaner (and less) harmaloids
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Ambivalent
#46 Posted : 4/11/2012 12:01:44 PM
gibran2 wrote:
Harmala salts in crystal form are easy to come by. In fact, a Manske produces really beautiful hydrochloride salts (see attachment). Getting harmala freebase to crystallize seems to be much more rare, hence this thread.

@ narmz – It would be nice if you could post a photo of your crystals. Interesting.



very, very impressive HCL crystal's Gibran2 !!

do you mind sharing with us some details on how you got such crystal precipitation. I would like to try to achieve this in near future with syrian rue. It should be great for pharma..


thanks alot
 
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#47 Posted : 4/11/2012 2:24:04 PM
Ambivalent,

The manske salt precipitation method yeilds beautiful hcl crystals by default. The Tao of Rue details the "standard" method for this, as well as phlux's method for slightly longer/larger crystal formations.
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Ambivalent
#48 Posted : 4/11/2012 3:33:27 PM
Thank you Snozzleberry,

Thanks for pointing out, i guess i have missed these teks even though i was already searching here on Manske tek.

Its all really wonderfull and very appreciated contribution !
 
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