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InMotion
Senior Member | Skills: 3D programming, Mathematician (if you need help with algebra to differential equations I'm available), SKilled Engineer
#1 Posted : 11/22/2011 12:06:49 AM
edit - woops this is in the wrong place, can any mod's please move this? I will report the thread or something to gain attention but please don't delete it lol.

In the chat-room I heard fractal was allergic to rice and a couple of other things common in pill binders, and universe-cannon was also interested in relativistically pure melatonin verses pill-gak. So here's what I came up with.

The supplements I used contained: Melatonin, Dibasic Calcium phosphate, Magnesium Stearate, and Sodium Starch Glycolate.

120 5mg melatonin pills where ground in a mortar and pestle until there were no noticeable chunks left and there was a free-flowing powder.

This powder was added to a flask, but obviously any small container will work. 40mL of acetone was then added to the powder and stirred with a glass stirring rod(you could probably use a fork but nothing plastic) for 2 minutes. The solution was allowed to settle briefly and then decanted(leaving most of the pill-gak behind). This was repeated one more time.(you can use less acetone for this amount of melatonin but it was conveniant to work with more solvent to avoid squeezing filter paper, etc)

The solution took on a yellowish hazey color, and was covered to sit over-night. The following morning a layer of pill-gak had fallen to the bottom of the flask so the solution was decanted and filtered again.

The solution was then evaporated yielding a slightly yellow waxy solid weighing 0.6g on a 0.1g accurate scale(sounds spot on to me). A tiny piece was burned on aluminum foil in-which it readily ignited and stunk like a classic tryptamine.

This may not be 100% pure, but for all intensive purposes this seems to be a way to remove binders from *some* melatonin supplements.


Hope this helps you guys <3.
 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#2 Posted : 11/22/2011 12:28:32 AM
Cool work, thanks IM! Very happy

I think the capsules i have just contain rice-flour (ground rice) and melatonin. After this week i'll be able to try this out on that and post how it goes in here




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InMotion
Senior Member | Skills: 3D programming, Mathematician (if you need help with algebra to differential equations I'm available), SKilled Engineer
#3 Posted : 11/22/2011 12:35:17 AM
Though I don't think rice-flour has a negative influence on the body I know you enjoy higher doses of melatonin. More power to ya Smile.

I'm sure ground rice does have some things soluble in acetone, though I bet the method I posted about would certainly help clean things up. I can't give a gaurantee but I think this will suit your needs, only one way to find out experiment and report back Smile.
 
InMotion
Senior Member | Skills: 3D programming, Mathematician (if you need help with algebra to differential equations I'm available), SKilled Engineer
#4 Posted : 11/22/2011 1:57:11 AM
Well on more careful investigation the melatonin likely oxidized giving it the yellow color. Hmmm.
 
jamie
Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing
#5 Posted : 11/22/2011 2:57:22 AM
interesting......I need to try this soon.
Long live the unwoke.
 
joedirt
Senior Member
#6 Posted : 11/22/2011 12:33:11 PM
Or you could just purchase pure melatonin from here:

http://purebulk.com/melatonin

Peace.
If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#7 Posted : 11/22/2011 4:28:19 PM
thats a pretty good deal

Sadly though it says: "Due to the extreme potency and the small serving sizes required of this product we are restricting sales to qualified health practice professionals only. "



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SKA
#8 Posted : 3/9/2012 3:37:32 AM
Definitely need to try this soon.
Could be helpfull in curing my ongoing insomnia.
And pure melatonin is also very handy for adding
to a mushroom-substrate.
 
universecannon
Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming
#9 Posted : 3/9/2012 3:55:54 AM
I ended up trying this a while ago. It worked well

thanks again inmotion



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SKA
#10 Posted : 3/18/2012 6:25:58 AM
Could Melatonin be extracted in reasonable amounts from plant sources?
Appearantly it is in ordinairy Corn and Rice. Would be nice to extract
Melatonin from rice & corn.
 
rOm
Senior Member
#11 Posted : 3/18/2012 9:16:33 AM
That would be nice indeed. I'm a big fan of melatonin which help me with sleep pattern (or calm down when I have too much nervosity) and sometimes in combination they add a good touch of tryptamine in my visuals when half awake in a dark room.
Melatonin is psychoactive though subtely. If you're on noribogaine for example you can feel it much (and low dose noribogaine seems to potentiate quite a few molecules).
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
jamie
Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing
#12 Posted : 3/18/2012 4:21:01 PM
SKA wrote:
Could Melatonin be extracted in reasonable amounts from plant sources?
Appearantly it is in ordinairy Corn and Rice. Would be nice to extract
Melatonin from rice & corn.


There is a type of grass that contains it..highest plant source known..called Festuca Arundinacea. I want to get seeds of this plant to grow out. Might be useful in ayahuasca.
Long live the unwoke.
 
 
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