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Almost everytime I breaktru I get the same place... 'Recurrent theme' Options
 
Pancho
#1 Posted : 2/4/2012 8:56:01 PM
I cant talk with this with my few friends who smoke because they cant breaktru yet. So I will discuss it with you, as an interesting theme to me.

I happens that I have a really recurrent "theme" every time I breaktru.
Just few times I have got something more like a "dream", I mean something less kaleidoscopic or psychedelic but like a common dream, less surreal elements on it and with normal people on it, sometimes I have even comunicated with them, not being just a passive spectator. But as I said that is really no often.

When this is just a "normal" breaktru I usually get to the same "place"; the same kaleidoscopic glass chambers with women in there. This women just look at me, they try to communicate whispering something I cant get, or just seems to be talking and laughing with each other and without caring about my presence.
Almost everytime entering with the breaktru it feels exactly the same, and I say to myself "this is it what I had forgotten everytime", and then the feeling of truth and belong there. And that silence, except for the whispering, like being deeply underwater. All of this I tried to describe is a very recurrent theme, and everytime it feels as just the exactly same 'everything'.

I want to know if you guys have the same 'issue', if you also have some recurrent hallucination theme that feels just the same of everytime before. And then you could also try to describe your 'recurrent theme'.

Regards Pleased
I have seen Space as kaleidoscopic chambers of infinite Knowledge,
I have seen Time as a semiLiquid mass on the hands of a pharaoh,
I have seen God as a warm and white, full of Love Dimention.
...am I really Seeing right now?


Death is the road to awe
 
cave paintings
#2 Posted : 2/5/2012 1:35:44 AM
Definitely don't arrive at the same place as you with the whispering women, but I know EXACTLY what you are talking about with the 'this is what I have forgotten every time', maybe that is why I haven't been doing it so much lately. The 'THIS IS IT' 'THIS IS REAL' feeling is what I get. Words don't work too well, and as for describing the 'place'.. lots of swirls and undulations, entities existing, sometimes they're mad, sometimes they're playful, loving, but they're always 'there', always have been always will be, that place and those entities.
It's something or some place that is far deeper than this material reality hahah...
Not sure how relatable or sensical any of that was..
Living to Give
 
jamie
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#3 Posted : 2/5/2012 2:31:54 AM
smoking DMT can be like that I find. It does the same thing every time..it is beautiful and amazing but with ayahuasca it is not like that. Ayahuasca just opens me up to this world that is like an ongoing narrative which is something I really really like about it.
Long live the unwoke.
 
Global
Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports
#4 Posted : 2/5/2012 6:36:20 AM
I've had recurring themes with both smoked DMT and ayahuasca. There's not one theme in particular, but I definitely visit a lot of the same places repeatedly. Sometimes there's beings in them, sometimes not. Sometimes the whole place is alive and flowing with energy and sometimes it's "dead". Lately, breaking through has meant making contact with the godhead which is always a flooring experience, but in these cases, it's more like variations on a theme than the exact same thing again and again. On moderate sub-breakthroughs I often get taken to this exotic vaulted mansion that has a number of rooms interdimensionally juxtaposed with different entities tending to hang out in different rooms.

Here's a suggestion for you to perhaps breakthrough this breakthrough of yours. If you can have extra hits of DMT ready to go after you've already blasted off (perhaps have another piece pre-loaded or have someone else quickly load up some DMT after you've taken your "last" hit), if you find yourself having the same experience, perhaps try opening your eyes and see if you can muster another hit. I don't know how in-body you are when you open your eyes, and a lot of people probably wouldn't feel comfortable doing this, but I figured I would call your attention to the possibility. I've done this when I've got stuck in loops that I've seen a million times. Some people think that it wouldn't work to smoke DMT after a certain point, but I've tried smoking it at just about every point during and after the experience, and it always works. Sometimes when I've taken another hit while peaking/going up, the DMT practically doesn't know what to do at first it, it can't believe you just took more, but surely enough, it figures out what to do with the extra fuel pretty quickly.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
Pancho
#5 Posted : 2/5/2012 6:32:35 PM
@Global

The few times I had got something more like a dream, less surreal and more terrenal themes and elements, and more significant, it have been caused by smoking more DMT after a first good one. I cant say I have smoked again at the begining of the trip, could be difficult with shaking hands and "vanished concepts" (sometimes I look the pipe in my hand before to close my eyes and think "what __ is this?" xD)...
But certainly I have smoked just after going back the breaktrou, still with a lot of effect, but at least less enought to know that I was there because I smoked this and to know how to smoke again xD, and this gives me some kind of counter-peak effect as a reloaded dose. And always this 2nd or 3rd load gives me more "like a dream" themes.

I think this is related to an physiological adaptation or familiarization that leads to a certain level of control (just like lucid dreaming) and so to get 'there' with a higher level of ego and conscience.

The thing is that not always you want to smoke again after a good brektrou. Even if this wasnt so significant, but you get some kind of being satisfied with this, overwhelmed.
But I have to say and conclude I totally agree with you about the enhancing loads 'smoke again' method, but also trying inmediatly after another breaktrou toke could help too... it works to me Rolling eyes


Regards and thanks for the interest
I have seen Space as kaleidoscopic chambers of infinite Knowledge,
I have seen Time as a semiLiquid mass on the hands of a pharaoh,
I have seen God as a warm and white, full of Love Dimention.
...am I really Seeing right now?


Death is the road to awe
 
VisualAnemia
#6 Posted : 2/5/2012 7:18:50 PM
Everything started to bleed out their color untill there's just a massive river of colors, this is all there is along with a killer carrierwave that's wrecking my poor hearing, but I'm never physically there.

I don't consider those dosages or experiences to be breakthroughs anymore though, they were at 30-40mg, always the same thing, didn't change untill I left for the 55mg+ doses. Ever since, every experience is completely unique and reminds me of nothing but the characteristic feeling DMT has.

Do your friends want to breakthrough? When and if the technique is still flawed, the easiest way to breakthrough is to simply load a larger dose and take as much as you can, although this is not recommended to rookies it does capture the approach one should take in order to successfully breakthrough.

In these days, whenever I choose to journey I ask myself: What level of breakthrough? Pleased

Tim Leary used to say: "When in doubt, double the dose"
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